**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 18 20:27:51 2004 Feb 18 20:27:51 --> You are now talking on #techshow Feb 18 20:27:51 --- thelinuxlink.net sets mode +n #techshow Feb 18 20:27:51 --- thelinuxlink.net sets mode +t #techshow Feb 18 20:59:42 --> allan (1000@192.168.0.188) has joined #techshow Feb 18 21:01:57 --> linc_ (~linc@pool-151-197-205-141.phil.east.verizon.net) has joined #techshow Feb 18 21:02:05 --- linc_ is now known as michele Feb 18 21:03:13 hey, i lost the connection Feb 18 21:03:28 yeah, so did we :-) Feb 18 21:03:31 hello Feb 18 21:03:35 says stream not found Feb 18 21:04:04 it's not up yet ;-) Dann is having some problems with himself tonight.. Feb 18 21:04:21 sounds like a personal problem to me Feb 18 21:04:27 ok try it now... Feb 18 21:04:37 buffreing Feb 18 21:04:50 oops spelled wrong you get the picture Feb 18 21:04:56 yeah it is back yeah Feb 18 21:06:05 ow lost again Feb 18 21:06:21 should be runnin now Feb 18 21:06:22 okay i'm back Feb 18 21:06:32 linc, you sound kinda loud Feb 18 21:06:57 should be fixed now - allan did some adjustments Feb 18 21:07:17 promo sounds quiet have it at 50% Feb 18 21:07:45 because the mics were so loud i think Feb 18 21:08:10 but what does that have to do with the promo being soft Feb 18 21:08:51 i'll be back in a few have to take dog out and get wash Feb 18 21:09:08 you have the vol turned down cause I was so loud.. promo is always same volume Feb 18 21:09:18 --> Moondog (root@216-15-70-225.c3-0.smt-ubr1.atw-smt.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #techshow Feb 18 21:09:37 Hello All Feb 18 21:11:11 hey there MD! Feb 18 21:11:11 Yeahhh...Welcome Linc Feb 18 21:11:20 to Debian Feb 18 21:12:08 and NT Feb 18 21:13:58 Samba is better than windows asit is now Feb 18 21:15:21 hello Moondog Feb 18 21:15:23 HAHAH Feb 18 21:15:29 Hi Allan Feb 18 21:17:36 http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/02/18/0146241.shtml Feb 18 21:21:26 http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php Feb 18 21:21:32 Im getting 503 also Feb 18 21:23:05 --> dan_0-kis (~danny_swe@192.168.0.189) has joined #techshow Feb 18 21:24:00 http://www.lnx-bbc.org Feb 18 21:29:14 --> Patrick (~pdavila@00045A247574.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined #techshow Feb 18 21:29:20 hello folks Feb 18 21:29:27 hi Feb 18 21:29:27 Hello Feb 18 21:30:12 spam sucks Feb 18 21:31:46 hello all Feb 18 21:36:08 linc, tell us about woody Feb 18 21:36:10 hi allan. How is newsforge doing these days?' Feb 18 21:36:47 Lots of great articles! Feb 18 21:37:02 We want woody Feb 18 21:37:30 I got some pictures of allan with his woody Feb 18 21:38:41 Why do you have pics of Allan and his woody? Feb 18 21:39:39 linc gave them too me. Feb 18 21:39:55 Or, more to the point, he left them here. Feb 18 21:43:12 Groooooovvvvvvyyyyyyyy... Feb 18 21:43:44 lite on topics tonight Feb 18 21:43:51 Car Wash Soundtrack? Feb 18 21:44:08 early 80's porn movie soundtrack Feb 18 21:44:25 Linc's debian discussion will be good. Feb 18 21:44:35 HAHAH..thats more like it:) Feb 18 21:44:48 all i have to say is who the hell installs debian on a sparc? Feb 18 21:45:00 Linc Feb 18 21:45:04 an idiot Feb 18 21:45:22 or a very patient saint. Feb 18 21:45:29 a masochist. Feb 18 21:45:35 early 80's sountrack if you ask me. Feb 18 21:45:56 cue ron jeremy Feb 18 21:46:40 boom shacka boom Feb 18 21:46:56 shak shak Feb 18 21:48:24 happy bday linkc :) Feb 18 21:48:30 :-) Feb 18 21:48:50 all i have to say is sun sucks!! Feb 18 21:49:06 firefox Feb 18 21:49:35 firefox rocks. Feb 18 21:49:51 swaret rocks Feb 18 21:50:04 finally slack has a decent package manager Feb 18 21:51:18 gentoo, install... compile.... sleep... compile... sleep... Feb 18 21:51:59 Rinse, Lather, Repeat? Feb 18 21:52:39 gentoo is probably great on a dual 2.6 ghz system Feb 18 21:53:15 Sarge has a new installer Feb 18 21:53:32 Due this summer with 2.6 Kernel Feb 18 21:53:50 I guess Sarge is bleeding edge debian, not stable, right? Feb 18 21:54:24 You can use ANaconda to install Debian Feb 18 21:54:44 deselect Feb 18 21:54:53 tasksel Feb 18 21:55:37 Yoiu have to select Unix server in tasksel for ssh Feb 18 21:56:19 http://platform.progeny.com/anaconda/ Feb 18 21:56:40 ????? Feb 18 21:56:48 Telnet is unsecure Feb 18 21:57:32 qmail? Feb 18 21:58:19 What? Feb 18 21:59:29 pine Feb 18 21:59:34 its not free Feb 18 22:00:13 That would be illegal Feb 18 22:00:27 and we dont do illegal things righr Feb 18 22:00:30 right Feb 18 22:00:34 HAHA Feb 18 22:00:46 It will work Feb 18 22:01:39 No illegal stuff here! Feb 18 22:01:49 Good to hear Feb 18 22:01:53 :) Feb 18 22:02:16 its complies with the owners restrictions Feb 18 22:02:24 IT cost money Feb 18 22:02:34 Its not freeware Feb 18 22:02:39 debian on x86 runs pretty well Feb 18 22:02:51 never installed it on ppc or sparc Feb 18 22:03:04 HAHAH Feb 18 22:04:06 what about Horde Feb 18 22:05:03 That is their claim to fame Feb 18 22:05:56 swaret is just as good Feb 18 22:06:14 not a big repository i presume Feb 18 22:06:19 for swaret Feb 18 22:06:27 the only negative so far is that there are less packages than debian and less mirros to hit Feb 18 22:06:42 questino answered Feb 18 22:07:18 kde 3.2 was availble on slack than before debian ... props to slack Feb 18 22:08:06 my biggest criticism of slack was that it didn't have a decent way to upgrade all the packages on the system Feb 18 22:08:44 is slashdot down? Feb 18 22:08:56 It was earlier Feb 18 22:09:11 Kept getting 503 errors Feb 18 22:09:13 how about the new license of XFree86 on 4.4? Feb 18 22:09:41 no one is going to include XFree86 4.4 anymore unless they change the license Feb 18 22:10:15 that is what I hear. Feb 18 22:10:22 debian doesn't have qt installed as default Feb 18 22:10:39 makes ya wonder what will actually happen with regards to this. Feb 18 22:10:56 i fiddled for hours to get make xconfig to work Feb 18 22:11:00 I forget exactly what the license change is, I will have to go bck and read it. Feb 18 22:11:20 was this a recent fiddling? Feb 18 22:12:02 the license basically says that any app that uses XFree86 has to show their new license message, as of 4.4, 01/20/04 Feb 18 22:12:33 back to slack Feb 18 22:12:59 Linc from linc.homeunix.org:8080 bashes Debian....next on slashdot news Feb 18 22:13:27 debian is a good distro just a pain in the ass to install Feb 18 22:13:35 :) Feb 18 22:13:45 Ha! Nothing on slashdot right now - they keep giving 503's Feb 18 22:14:11 Linc...How crappy is a sparcstation5??? Feb 18 22:14:18 or not Feb 18 22:14:28 They are nice machines actually Feb 18 22:14:42 slowlaris Feb 18 22:14:46 yep Feb 18 22:14:57 a stripped down version Feb 18 22:15:04 <-- michele has quit (Client exiting) Feb 18 22:15:16 I'm actually thinking about getting a mac !!! Feb 18 22:15:22 what proc is in the 5? Feb 18 22:15:42 I'm gonna wait and see if the prices come down after the next G5 release in March? Feb 18 22:15:51 goodnight allan Feb 18 22:15:54 I dont know...I havent checked on that...it came with a thin client Feb 18 22:16:07 have to see the cash situation...hello tax returns Feb 18 22:16:19 <-- allan has quit (Leaving) Feb 18 22:16:19 I hear that Feb 18 22:16:38 those 64 bit AMD's are sweet though Feb 18 22:16:47 well, there are a lot of different processors you can run on a ss5. Some are up to 170mhz - which flies on a ss5. Feb 18 22:17:23 I run my mail servers on 50-60mhz procs, and they will keep up with whatever I throw at them. Feb 18 22:17:47 I guess i will install debian on it and give it a whirl.. Feb 18 22:18:06 well, if you have any troubles, give me a buzz.. I got it down by now I think. Feb 18 22:18:20 in my experience the worse part of a debian install is the x configuration Feb 18 22:18:27 Thanks...I will keep that in mind.. Feb 18 22:18:50 Linc..do you have X on your sparc Feb 18 22:18:58 as long as you know what modules you need you're golden Feb 18 22:19:48 Thanks for the show....Have a Good Night. Feb 18 22:20:12 g'night everyone! Feb 18 22:20:20 <-- Moondog has quit (using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1) Feb 18 22:20:23 no no x on my sparc - just a server Feb 18 22:20:39 Python interface unloaded Feb 18 22:20:40 Tcl plugin unloaded. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 18 22:20:40 2004