**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 3 20:59:57 2004 Mar 03 20:59:57 --> You are now talking on #techshow Mar 03 21:00:08 that was all linc Mar 03 21:00:25 hey don't blame me for pressing the wrong button Mar 03 21:00:25 Hope you enjoyed the pregame show! Mar 03 21:01:00 oh, and just to verify, Allan was not killed Mar 03 21:01:28 heh Mar 03 21:02:10 anyone gettin the promo music out there? Mar 03 21:02:13 I am Mar 03 21:02:22 cool, here we go! Mar 03 21:02:26 yeah Mar 03 21:02:40 allan is holding us up this week. Mar 03 21:02:45 Maybe he should die Mar 03 21:02:50 figured Mar 03 21:02:59 --> Patrick (~pdavila@24.229.206.22) has joined #techshow Mar 03 21:03:02 the voices are speaking again. Mar 03 21:03:07 good evening Mar 03 21:03:13 hello Mar 03 21:03:15 Wow, full crowd tonight. Hopefully the stream can handle it. Mar 03 21:03:31 indeed Mar 03 21:04:15 I usually don't catch it live but I called out sick tonight Mar 03 21:05:17 yeah! Mar 03 21:05:25 how are you feeling? Mar 03 21:05:30 ok Mar 03 21:05:30 yeah! Mar 03 21:05:38 better now that he's listening to us :-) Mar 03 21:05:40 sinus infection Mar 03 21:05:46 dont talk about the weather, that how the other show usually starts :) Mar 03 21:06:01 stream is skipping Mar 03 21:06:05 for me anyway :) Mar 03 21:06:11 the tech show...It's good for what ails ya. Mar 03 21:06:14 Sounds ok here Mar 03 21:06:16 feel better than I did earlier today that's for sure Mar 03 21:07:09 a full house Mar 03 21:07:19 Allan THE MAN Mar 03 21:07:43 --- Paladin has changed the topic to: the tech show...It's good for what ails ya. Mar 03 21:09:11 I kind of like ALSA. It works for me. Mello hates it. Mar 03 21:09:29 But that's because he resists the future. Mar 03 21:09:54 I don't fix what aint broken :) Mar 03 21:10:09 --> linc_ (~linc@pool-151-197-238-214.phil.east.verizon.net) has joined #techshow Mar 03 21:10:18 --- linc_ is now known as michele Mar 03 21:12:01 we gettin stuttttttters Mar 03 21:12:17 eff sco Mar 03 21:12:19 Yeah a couple stutters here too. Mar 03 21:12:23 stutters here too Mar 03 21:12:30 ditto Mar 03 21:12:34 I got a few calls from Microsoft Mar 03 21:12:41 asking me to go to a conference Mar 03 21:12:50 Why not just use something like AIM to handle call-ins Mar 03 21:12:53 (lost the feed) Mar 03 21:12:55 let me know if the stuttering continues. Mar 03 21:12:58 Novell called me last week Mar 03 21:13:08 stream dropped here Mar 03 21:13:10 get a cheap PC, set up an AIM login. Patch the audio out from that into your mix board. Mar 03 21:13:16 ditto Mar 03 21:13:23 dropped/stuttering here Mar 03 21:13:28 back now Mar 03 21:13:42 It's like the TLLTS dance remix Mar 03 21:14:32 wicca wicca Mar 03 21:14:46 still doing it? Mar 03 21:14:52 on and off Mar 03 21:14:58 it's better now here Mar 03 21:15:15 fine now Mar 03 21:15:25 heh technet Mar 03 21:15:37 pix pix Mar 03 21:17:10 sco is biting off more than they can chew Mar 03 21:17:13 patch management, more like patch mismanagement Mar 03 21:17:40 the legal fees are eating them up lol Mar 03 21:18:03 sco has no product, no development, only lawsuits Mar 03 21:19:53 Autozone switched to Redhat somewhere around 1999 Mar 03 21:20:00 They used SCO before that Mar 03 21:21:56 sco was the first nix I ever installed Mar 03 21:22:03 1994 Mar 03 21:22:17 gay Mar 03 21:22:17 hehe Mar 03 21:24:19 stream jumping again Mar 03 21:24:41 sounds ok here Mar 03 21:24:44 anyone see the latest posting regarding sco Mar 03 21:24:46 ok here too Mar 03 21:25:24 Here's the text of SCO's complaint regarding AutoZone: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040303193037634 Mar 03 21:25:35 My old logitech mouse which I've had since 93 finally died last week Mar 03 21:25:45 R.I.P. Mar 03 21:26:07 I picked a new optical logitech for like $20. It works well Mar 03 21:26:19 "Plaintiff demands that all issues in this case be tried by a jury in accordance with the Seventh Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Rule 38(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure." Mar 03 21:26:24 They want a jury trial. Mar 03 21:26:26 Interesting. Mar 03 21:26:40 juries are usually composed of idiots Mar 03 21:26:44 I use Logitech trackballs. TrackMan Marble Wheel Mar 03 21:27:14 the switch window button even works! Mar 03 21:27:32 Logitech optical mice for me. Got sick of my balls getting dirty and messing with my pointer. Mar 03 21:27:53 the scroll whell is nice Mar 03 21:28:00 --- Paladin has changed the topic to: ...Got sick of my balls getting dirty and messing with my pointer. Mar 03 21:28:08 dirty balls are the worst Mar 03 21:28:23 cannot live without the scroll wheel Mar 03 21:29:24 you know it. they get all dusty and hairy and then you have to pull them out and scrap around the inside edges with your fingernail. Mar 03 21:29:27 judge wells has ordered sco to show the code! Mar 03 21:29:55 Judge orders SCO, IBM to produce disputed code Mar 03 21:29:58 http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/04/03/03/2354211.shtml Mar 03 21:30:15 doesn't sco have to produce first, and then ibm must comply to sco's request? Mar 03 21:30:24 http://www.thescogroup.com/ibmlawsuit/USDC_DOC_3Mar04.pdf Mar 03 21:30:59 --- Paladin has changed the topic to: Judge orders SCO, IBM to produce disputed code Mar 03 21:37:40 <-- Mellofone has quit (Remote closed the connection) Mar 03 21:40:04 what about slack on amd64? Mar 03 21:40:27 I'm interested in macs Mar 03 21:49:58 Games: HardOCP Sues Infinium Over Legal Threats Mar 03 21:50:05 --> Mellofone (~mellofone@pool-141-158-56-115.phil.east.verizon.net) has joined #techshow Mar 03 21:50:45 Mar 03 21:50:47 http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ Mar 03 21:50:52 Synergy lets you easily share a single mouse and keyboard between multiple computers with different operating systems, each with its own display, without special hardware. It's intended for users with multiple computers on their desk since each system uses its own monitor(s). Mar 03 21:51:00 Redirecting the mouse and keyboard is as simple as moving the mouse off the edge of your screen. Synergy also merges the clipboards of all the systems into one, allowing cut-and-paste between systems. Furthermore, it synchronizes screen savers so they all start and stop together and, if screen locking is enabled, only one screen requires a password to unlock them all. Mar 03 21:51:06 saw that in Linux Journal Mar 03 21:51:23 didn't have an excrypted connection at the time I tried it Mar 03 21:51:53 "Synergy does not do any authentication or encryption. Any computer can connect to the synergy server if it provides a screen name known to the server, and all data is transferred between the server and the clients unencrypted which means that anyone can, say, extract the key presses used to type a password. Therefore, synergy should not be used on untrusted networks. " Mar 03 21:52:01 Supposedly you can use SSH to tunnel it. Mar 03 21:52:06 Which is a PITA. Mar 03 21:52:10 that was too much work :) Mar 03 21:53:08 Seems cool though. Mar 03 21:53:29 Hrm, you can cut and paste between the two systems? :That rocks. Mar 03 21:54:08 yeah that sounds cool Mar 03 21:55:55 A nice KVM box would do the same. Mar 03 21:55:59 But the price is right. Mar 03 21:56:16 with unencrypted traffic on the net.... that sucks. Mar 03 21:56:39 you can push it through ssh if ya want Mar 03 21:56:54 that was too much work :) Mar 03 21:57:10 what about on the win32 end? Mar 03 21:57:25 er, well, yeah I guess that would work too Mar 03 21:58:30 Put all those systems on a switch between the rest of your network, then the traffic only go over those segments. Mar 03 21:59:03 Posted: http://thinkhole.org/archive/show.php?pid=54 :) Mar 03 21:59:14 later Mar 03 21:59:16 <-- Patrick has quit (Leaving) Mar 03 22:00:24 <-- Mellofone has quit (User disconnected) Mar 03 22:01:02 Of course, if you were adding another switch, you could just get a KVM switch! :) Mar 03 22:01:30 yeah, but you can get a small switch for $20, how much are you going to pay for a kvm? I thought they were a bit pricey. Mar 03 22:02:04 Not really. Check www.bensbargains.net on a regular basis. Mar 03 22:02:20 $40 easily, for a nice one with hotkeys Mar 03 22:02:32 Telnet?!?!!? Mar 03 22:02:42 I'll have allan break out his Visa and order one up! Mar 03 22:03:01 Heh, have him order me one too! :) Mar 03 22:03:05 telnet, dictionary password based on commonly known personal information. Mar 03 22:03:07 It's a really cool idea though. Mar 03 22:03:10 Charge it!!! Mar 03 22:03:18 I'll be checking it out this week. No doubt. Mar 03 22:06:53 Arcade games are like $1 and up Mar 03 22:07:09 What happened to Gauntlet? Mar 03 22:07:14 Golden Axe! Mar 03 22:07:26 space invaders is supposed to be re-released Mar 03 22:07:29 went the way of xmen and other games around the time. Mar 03 22:07:35 50 cents a game Mar 03 22:07:37 Although gauntlet 2 was neat. Mar 03 22:07:46 TEMPEST Mar 03 22:07:55 I was a a Robotron fan myself Mar 03 22:08:14 Tempest: http://www.klov.com/T/Tempest.html Mar 03 22:08:46 smash tv and total carnage Mar 03 22:09:01 Smash TV: http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=&game_id=9591 Mar 03 22:09:11 I'm on that klov.com site now Mar 03 22:09:23 It rocks. Mar 03 22:09:55 oh man. brings back some memories. how could I forget missile command? lol Mar 03 22:11:20 I played Defender for hours into days on Atari 5200 Mar 03 22:17:53 spy hunter Mar 03 22:18:23 bye all Thanks for listening Mar 03 22:18:27 later Mar 03 22:18:55 <-- allan has quit (Leaving) Mar 03 22:18:59 <-- michele has quit (Client exiting) Mar 03 22:19:25 bye everybody! Mar 03 22:19:34 Thanks for listening! Mar 03 22:19:36 have a good week. Mar 03 22:19:39 You too link Mar 03 22:19:40 linc Mar 03 22:19:50 <-- dan_lick has quit (Remote closed the connection) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 3 22:21:04 2004