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Apr 14 20:47:48 -->	You are now talking on #techshow
Apr 14 20:48:10 <mikeyp>	hello linc
Apr 14 20:48:17 <linc>	Hey!
Apr 14 20:48:32 <dann>	oh hi
Apr 14 20:48:49 -->	coast_afk (coast@clt74-70-014.carolina.rr.com) has joined #techshow
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Apr 14 20:49:06 <mikeyp>	whats gonna be talked about tonight?
Apr 14 20:49:32 <dann>	everything and anything.  Linux on the desktop
Apr 14 20:51:02 <coast>	http://thelinuxlink.net:8000 (will this link become clickable at 9pm to listen to the show?
Apr 14 20:51:04 <mikeyp>	sweet
Apr 14 20:52:33 <mikeyp>	are you guys live now?
Apr 14 20:59:45 -->	Patrick (~Patrick@00045A247574.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined #techshow
Apr 14 21:00:54 <Patrick>	what's happening
Apr 14 21:02:16 <linc>	we're fixing to start the show ! :-)
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Apr 14 21:03:06 <Patrick>	I got a couple of good audio related links:
Apr 14 21:03:08 <Patrick>	http://linux-sound.org/
Apr 14 21:03:25 <Patrick>	http://www.audioslack.com/
Apr 14 21:04:17 <Patrick>	the first is a repository of links of audio apps, it's kept up to date and is quite extensive
Apr 14 21:04:46 <Patrick>	the second is a repository of slack packges of some those killer apps
Apr 14 21:06:37 <Patrick>	is the hybrid working?
Apr 14 21:06:51 <allan>	Not yet Soon!
Apr 14 21:07:40 <Patrick>	here's a link to a good article on audio on linux:
Apr 14 21:07:42 <Patrick>	http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6720
Apr 14 21:10:03 <coast>	dan's microphone level is too high
Apr 14 21:13:48 <linc>	better?
Apr 14 21:14:06 <Patrick>	i compiled w/2.6.5 today, went back to alsa drivers
Apr 14 21:14:18 <linc>	alsa=ick
Apr 14 21:14:23 <coast>	yes dann mic is ok now thanks
Apr 14 21:14:29 <linc>	k
Apr 14 21:14:49 <Patrick>	i get a little static at high volumes with also that i didn't get w/OSS
Apr 14 21:15:24 <mikeyp>	whats your fastest machine dann?
Apr 14 21:15:29 <Patrick>	according to all the articles is alsa is the way to go, especially if you're doing audio apps
Apr 14 21:16:15 <dann>	My fastest machine would be my PowerBook G4 running at 1ghz.
Apr 14 21:16:40 <mikeyp>	thats decent
Apr 14 21:16:50 <mikeyp>	there are some people in bclug that their fastest is like 300 mhz
Apr 14 21:16:54 <Patrick>	kde 3.2 is nice
Apr 14 21:16:57 <dann>	The rest are all under 500 mhz.  Well maybe the Inspiron is a pIII 550.  Server is pIII 450.  Main workstation amdk63 400
Apr 14 21:17:31 <mikeyp>	athlon xp 1800+, duron 1 ghz, Pentium 2 400 mhz
Apr 14 21:17:40 <coast>	I use a homebuilt P4 2.4ghz 512MB ram
Apr 14 21:18:01 <dann>	some envy there.  Processor envy.
Apr 14 21:18:07 <mikeyp>	yeah ric and chris were amazing
Apr 14 21:18:49 <coast>	I play around with knoppix sometimes on my P2 400MHZ dell
Apr 14 21:19:33 <mikeyp>	mike
Apr 14 21:19:33 <mikeyp>	yeah
Apr 14 21:19:35 <mikeyp>	me
Apr 14 21:19:36 <mikeyp>	i am
Apr 14 21:23:00 <dann>	so I take it that p4 2.4ghz is running some other os.
Apr 14 21:23:01 <Patrick>	newsflash, steve jobs farted today, story at 11:00!
Apr 14 21:24:36 <dann>	You can download the audio via iTunes for the low low price of $.89 per biscuit.  This is a limited time offer after which the price will resume to $.99 per air biscuit.
Apr 14 21:24:56 <coast>	yeah win98, but I'm thinking of doing a Suse install on it.
Apr 14 21:25:03 <Patrick>	how about that acc cracker program that was newsforge
Apr 14 21:25:15 <Patrick>	they shut it down and it moved to a site in India
Apr 14 21:25:38 <dann>	dont' forget the slack.
Apr 14 21:25:59 <coast>	I'm not familiar with the linux command lines though
Apr 14 21:26:46 <mikeyp>	i forgive you dann
Apr 14 21:27:49 <coast>	dann, the 2.4 P4 is running winxp, the dell P2 400mhz is running win98
Apr 14 21:28:31 <coast>	xp is my work machine, and I wouldn't be able to switch completely to linux
Apr 14 21:28:49 <coast>	maybe just for entertainment
Apr 14 21:30:19 <Patrick>	anyone see the nvidia card?
Apr 14 21:30:21 <Patrick>	http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_6800.html
Apr 14 21:31:32 <coast>	http://www.arklinux.org/index2.php   this looks interesting
Apr 14 21:32:28 <coast>	http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml    useful link
Apr 14 21:33:58 <coast>	do you guys know all the linux commands in the above link by memory?
Apr 14 21:35:09 <coast>	yes that was a good article at toms hardware
Apr 14 21:35:47 <allan>	Cool Link
Apr 14 21:38:27 <coast>	lol
Apr 14 21:42:14 <Patrick>	this ones ready Ida
Apr 14 21:44:20 <linc>	music too loud?
Apr 14 21:44:32 <Patrick>	nope
Apr 14 21:44:35 <linc>	k thnx
Apr 14 21:46:45 <coast>	http://old.lwn.net/Distributions/
Apr 14 21:47:34 <Patrick>	this is better
Apr 14 21:47:44 <Patrick>	http://www.distrowatch.com/
Apr 14 21:48:31 <coast>	thanks
Apr 14 21:53:16 <Patrick>	bunch of socialists :)
Apr 14 21:53:24 <coast>	could you talk about the linux setup on printers, cable modems, and routers
Apr 14 21:53:41 <coast>	and laptop intstallation stuff
Apr 14 21:54:26 <coast>	using linux on an old laptop with a linksys wireless router as a second machine
Apr 14 21:54:37 <Patrick>	linux on the desktop is more than ready
Apr 14 21:54:49 <Patrick>	linc nailed it on the head
Apr 14 21:55:19 <Patrick>	people are lazy in their complacency
Apr 14 21:55:56 <Patrick>	vigor :)
Apr 14 21:56:24 <coast>	I'd like to make linux work like xp
Apr 14 21:59:05 <Patrick>	http://vigor.sourceforge.net/logo1.png
Apr 14 21:59:28 <dann>	what's that freeze up and crash on a regular basis
Apr 14 21:59:50 <Patrick>	let xp be what it is
Apr 14 22:00:30 <linc>	xpde.com - xp look n feel windowmanager
Apr 14 22:00:46 <Patrick>	homer says 'wiiiindoooooze, aaaaaggghhh'
Apr 14 22:01:55 <coast>	I find slimbrowser is 200-400kbps faster than Firefox
Apr 14 22:02:11 <coast>	in web surfing
Apr 14 22:04:10 <Patrick>	unreal 2004 comes on linux
Apr 14 22:04:14 <coast>	what linux distro on the laptop?
Apr 14 22:04:29 <dann>	it does, but it cripples my systems.
Apr 14 22:04:40 <Patrick>	I've used mandrake, RH and Debian on my old laptop
Apr 14 22:05:05 <Patrick>	I was going to put Slack on it but I sold it
Apr 14 22:05:45 <Patrick>	Mandrake was the most painless, install wise
Apr 14 22:06:46 <linc>	SLACKWARE!
Apr 14 22:08:41 <Patrick>	the quality of windoze:
Apr 14 22:08:42 <Patrick>	http://news.com.com/2100-7349_3-5190818.html?tag=nefd.top
Apr 14 22:09:28 <coast>	what's the win for lin link?
Apr 14 22:09:53 <mikeyp>	mad matt is here
Apr 14 22:10:58 <dann>	allan, give them the link and stop looking at me.
Apr 14 22:11:07 <Patrick>	http://www.netraverse.com/
Apr 14 22:11:30 <allan>	http://www.netraverse.com/
Apr 14 22:12:03 <allan>	A little slow this evening, Sorry
Apr 14 22:12:05 <mikeyp>	crap wrong window
Apr 14 22:12:09 <mikeyp>	sorry
Apr 14 22:12:18 <Patrick>	firefox
Apr 14 22:13:58 <Patrick>	we need something like i-movies
Apr 14 22:14:48 <coast>	stock trading software, not very much available on linux
Apr 14 22:15:33 <Patrick>	I've worked in the brokerage industry for 10 years, a lot of the software on different platforms
Apr 14 22:15:46 <Patrick>	unix on the frontend, mainframe on the back
Apr 14 22:16:02 <dann>	What about stock trading via the web?  Why do you need extra software?
Apr 14 22:16:31 <Patrick>	most of the trading websites run a versin of unix for the UI
Apr 14 22:16:39 <coast>	direct access platforms are not written in linux
Apr 14 22:16:47 <coast>	or useable in linux
Apr 14 22:16:57 <Patrick>	time to bail out
Apr 14 22:17:01 <Patrick>	good night
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Apr 14 22:18:43 <coast>	good show guys thanks
Apr 14 22:19:08 <coast>	suse has and iso disk now 
Apr 14 22:19:08 <allan>	thanks for listening
Apr 14 22:20:01 <--	allan has quit (Leaving)
Apr 14 22:20:06 <linc>	g'night Johnboy
Apr 14 22:20:09 <mikeyp>	suse has had an iso disc for at least a year
Apr 14 22:20:14 <mikeyp>	goodnight
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