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May 05 20:40:13 -->	You are now talking on #techshow
May 05 20:42:33 <dann>	cool
May 05 20:42:48 <dann>	see that sup
May 05 20:42:52 <dann>	cool and cool again.
May 05 20:59:52 -->	Brian (~Brian@207-172-234-156.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #techshow
May 05 21:03:49 -->	Patrick (~Patrick@00045A247574.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined #techshow
May 05 21:03:54 <Patrick>	good evening gents
May 05 21:04:35 <Brian>	'ning
May 05 21:04:58 <allan>	totally cool man!
May 05 21:05:01 <allan>	Hello
May 05 21:05:11 <Patrick>	gee wheez
May 05 21:05:38 <Patrick>	we should say f*** as many times as possible
May 05 21:05:46 <Patrick>	brilliant :)
May 05 21:06:07 <Patrick>	who cares about that wanker
May 05 21:07:14 <Patrick>	a round for allan!!
May 05 21:07:48 <Patrick>	one of my favorites posts was on linuxquestions.org
May 05 21:08:05 <Patrick>	some idiot says linux sux, can you help me?
May 05 21:08:47 -->	Pog (~Pog@modem-680.alakazam.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #techshow
May 05 21:09:10 <Patrick>	welcome pog
May 05 21:09:55 <linc>	cafepress.com/tllts
May 05 21:09:56 <Patrick>	anyone try bittorrent yet?
May 05 21:10:10 <Patrick>	I just installed it. Will be trying it out
May 05 21:10:31 <Pog>	Hello... just dropped in to see what was going on. I followed the link from lugradio.
May 05 21:10:47 <linc>	hi there pog!  you listening live?
May 05 21:11:12 <Patrick>	what's it like 3:00 am your time?
May 05 21:11:20 <Pog>	Yep... from the uk. I was having trouble sleeping (it's 2am here) :)
May 05 21:11:31 <Patrick>	wolverhampton?
May 05 21:11:34 <Pog>	Patrick: Dark
May 05 21:11:46 <Pog>	No, Lancashire.
May 05 21:12:02 <Patrick>	you follow football?
May 05 21:12:39 <Pog>	On and off. I live near the city of Blackburn (of Blackburn Rovers fame).
May 05 21:12:52 <Patrick>	brad friedel!
May 05 21:13:12 <Patrick>	I actually have a rovers jersey from 10 years ago
May 05 21:13:21 <Pog>	:) yep. Quality keeper.
May 05 21:13:37 <Patrick>	arte et labore
May 05 21:14:07 <dann>	hey there pog.
May 05 21:14:24 <Pog>	They just managed to avoid relegation this year. Still never mind... I'm sure they'll do better next year.
May 05 21:14:28 <Pog>	dann: Hi.
May 05 21:15:15 <Patrick>	so who's the evil twin, allan or ag?
May 05 21:16:21 <dann>	allan was the afterbirth they flushed away.  That's why he is now in the United States.
May 05 21:17:06 <allan>	now now...
May 05 21:17:44 <Patrick>	gstream ripper?
May 05 21:18:14 <Patrick>	gstring ripper?
May 05 21:18:45 <Pog>	If you don't mind me asking, what are people using to listen? I'm using mplayer.
May 05 21:18:59 <linc>	i use realplayer or xmms usually
May 05 21:19:04 -->	Moondog (~chatzilla@209.235.223.19) has joined #techshow
May 05 21:19:04 <Patrick>	realplayer or xmms
May 05 21:19:07 <allan>	xmms
May 05 21:19:19 <Moondog>	Hello All
May 05 21:19:28 <allan>	Hello
May 05 21:19:37 <Pog>	Moondog: Hello
May 05 21:19:51 <dann>	http://www.cafepress.com/tllts
May 05 21:20:17 <Moondog>	I have checked out the cafe link..:)
May 05 21:24:04 <linc>	moon - u buy something to help promote us?
May 05 21:24:09 <Pog>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancashire
May 05 21:24:12 <Pog>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn
May 05 21:25:56 <dann>	buy buy buy
May 05 21:25:59 <dann>	and buy some more
May 05 21:26:05 <dann>	the more you buy the more we put up
May 05 21:26:32 <Pog>	Actually, to be even more specific: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accrington (the village of Oswaldtwistle)
May 05 21:26:34 <Moondog>	I will be buying a t-shirt and support the lig
May 05 21:26:38 <Moondog>	LUG
May 05 21:26:56 <Brian>	groooovy
May 05 21:27:04 <dann>	Actually, the LUG is a different product.  I'm not sure it exists anymore. 
May 05 21:27:44 <dann>	The LUG t-shirt, not the lUG, the LVLUG still exits.  Meeting this Tuesday as a matter of fact.
May 05 21:27:48 <Moondog>	sorry TECHSHOW
May 05 21:28:04 <dann>	 yeah, that's what I like to hear.
May 05 21:28:40 <dann>	Linc's lug merchandise is still there, but not mine.  I let mine expire.
May 05 21:29:32 <Moondog>	I need a Coffee MUG for work. To help spread the word amongst the fellow Linux Users
May 05 21:30:00 <linc>	http://www.cafepress.com/linc
May 05 21:30:07 <linc>	That's where ya get you LUG MUG
May 05 21:30:36 <dann>	that's really cool
May 05 21:31:08 <Moondog>	I need TECHSHOW MUG :-)
May 05 21:31:18 <linc>	we'll get one up there
May 05 21:31:24 <linc>	keep watching
May 05 21:33:11 <Patrick>	does hydrogen require jack?
May 05 21:35:53 <dann>	You do not need jack, but it will support jack.
May 05 21:36:00 <dann>	I belive rosegarden needs jack.
May 05 21:37:31 <Patrick>	yes will be at the allentown fair
May 05 21:38:24 <Brian>	beer is too expensive at musikfest though
May 05 21:38:56 <Patrick>	kenny chesney
May 05 21:39:10 <dann>	bring your own.
May 05 21:39:12 <Patrick>	will be at the allentown fair
May 05 21:39:26 <Patrick>	no
May 05 21:39:34 <Patrick>	I've seen yes like 20 times
May 05 21:40:01 <dann>	no what, yes is not touring with styx?
May 05 21:40:26 <dann>	and/or styx is not at the a-town fair.
May 05 21:40:52 <Patrick>	I'm compiling hydrogen right now
May 05 21:41:13 <dann>	what are you running over there.
May 05 21:42:15 <Patrick>	have you downloaded and tried the different kits
May 05 21:42:25 <dann>	I have all the kits.  They are interesting.
May 05 21:42:44 <dann>	You create your masterpiece, save it, and then load different kits and test it out.
May 05 21:42:47 <Patrick>	any funky hip hop kits with the ridiculous bass drum sounds
May 05 21:42:47 <dann>	Really easy to do.
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May 05 21:45:09 <mikeyp>	i forgot about the show
May 05 21:45:24 <dann>	but the show did not forget you.
May 05 21:45:29 <mikeyp>	good
May 05 21:45:53 <dann>	you would not happen to be pthread on the forum, would you mike?
May 05 21:46:03 <mikeyp>	nope
May 05 21:46:08 <mikeyp>	i think that is James Kelly
May 05 21:46:17 <dann>	You know James?
May 05 21:46:43 <mikeyp>	yeah he attends BCLUG
May 05 21:47:15 <dann>	You know how he found out sup works for the James Real Estate Group?
May 05 21:47:33 <Patrick>	mandrake 10.0 came out for 64-bit AMD
May 05 21:47:36 <mikeyp>	who is sup?
May 05 21:47:45 <dann>	our biggest fan.
May 05 21:47:56 <dann>	he is trying to remain anonymous though.
May 05 21:48:28 <mikeyp>	sup is?
May 05 21:48:37 <Patrick>	what does yellodog use, rpm?
May 05 21:49:00 <Patrick>	no compiler??
May 05 21:49:00 <dann>	I don't know who sup is.  He posted on our forum, letting us know how much he liked the show.
May 05 21:49:12 <dann>	yellowdog is redhat based, uses rpm.
May 05 21:49:17 <mikeyp>	oh
May 05 21:49:20 <Patrick>	rpm, ugh!
May 05 21:49:27 <mikeyp>	I have no idea how he would find out that he works for JREG
May 05 21:49:44 <dann>	worth a shot.
May 05 21:51:26 <Patrick>	Check out this site: http://linux-sound.org/
May 05 21:51:37 <Patrick>	excellent repository for audio in linux
May 05 21:52:08 <Patrick>	for you slackers: http://www.audioslack.com/
May 05 21:52:37 <Patrick>	for you rpm'ers: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
May 05 21:52:46 <dann>	I have been there.  Audio slack is a cool site.
May 05 21:53:13 <Patrick>	i've reading up on ardour, cool app
May 05 21:53:29 <Patrick>	the main developer lives outside Philly
May 05 21:53:58 <Patrick>	English guy, Paul Davis?
May 05 21:54:10 <dann>	I would like to check this out myself.
May 05 21:54:16 <dann>	Are you running ardour yet?
May 05 21:54:20 <Patrick>	no
May 05 21:54:45 <Patrick>	to really utilize ardour you need to setup midi with a good pro audio card
May 05 21:54:59 <Patrick>	from RME or E-audio
May 05 21:55:25 <Patrick>	M-audio
May 05 21:55:40 <Patrick>	eff steve jobs!
May 05 21:56:28 <dann>	I guess my soundblaster live is not going to cut it there now is it?
May 05 21:56:41 <mikeyp>	there are XP themes that look like OS X
May 05 21:56:54 <Patrick>	no, pro audio card are pretty steep
May 05 21:57:06 <Patrick>	$200-600
May 05 21:57:32 <Patrick>	you also need a preamp for recording analog instruments
May 05 21:57:44 <Patrick>	and a mike
May 05 21:58:00 <Patrick>	hydrogen crapped out in my compile
May 05 21:58:26 <Patrick>	it was looking for hydrogenplayer
May 05 21:58:39 <dann>	happened to me too.  I am running an older version. two versions ago.  I think there has been some changes in qt.
May 05 21:58:47 <dann>	I can send you the slackware package I made
May 05 21:58:52 <Patrick>	cool
May 05 21:59:31 <Patrick>	back to ardour, it nice to have a midi-controller (keyboard) as well
May 05 21:59:47 <Patrick>	Something to input your music!
May 05 22:00:47 <Brian>	I helped someone yesterday remove 15 instances of sasser
May 05 22:00:49 <Moondog>	What exploitable Black Ice on Windows
May 05 22:01:01 <Brian>	that rpc one was blaster I think
May 05 22:01:31 <Moondog>	mblast
May 05 22:01:38 <Brian>	yeah
May 05 22:01:42 <dann>	yeah, that really sucked.  While the infection was very minimal where I work, it was a damn nuisance 
May 05 22:01:53 <dann>	around noon every day until we found the infected machine.
May 05 22:01:57 <Brian>	funny thing is that in November computers were still being shipped without the patch
May 05 22:02:16 <Brian>	hit in Aug., ms patch was made available in July
May 05 22:02:48 <Brian>	lady had this new computer, turned it on, got online, and got blaster
May 05 22:04:20 <Patrick>	nice
May 05 22:05:05 <dann>	grab hydrogen at:  http://www.thelinuxlink.net/~dann/hydrogen-0.8.0-i586-1.tgz
May 05 22:05:19 <dann>	you will probably want to wait until after the show though, so you do not hog the bandwidth.
May 05 22:05:55 <Patrick>	thanks
May 05 22:06:37 <Patrick>	will the lug be migrating to the bb forum?
May 05 22:08:28 <Patrick>	booth babes?
May 05 22:09:45 <Patrick>	like the bsd devil chicks from a few years back
May 05 22:09:55 <dann>	I remember those.
May 05 22:10:01 <mikeyp>	i have seen those
May 05 22:10:08 <Brian>	oh man that sounds interesting
May 05 22:10:31 <Patrick>	the bigges booth babe show is E3 in Vegas
May 05 22:10:38 <dann>	the booth babe forum?
May 05 22:10:42 <mikeyp>	i wish that i had gone to the comp show in trenton
May 05 22:10:58 <dann>	a lot of freaks there.  Freakier than Linc.
May 05 22:11:18 <Patrick>	trenton is a good show, I haven't gone in years
May 05 22:11:35 <Patrick>	any Bill Gates sitings?
May 05 22:11:45 <dann>	no, not at the show.
May 05 22:12:00 <Patrick>	Dan, I saw your post on Newsforge regarding lugs
May 05 22:12:10 <dann>	how about that huh?
May 05 22:12:35 <Patrick>	http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/05/02/2030226.shtml?tid=2&tid=82&tid=91&tid=94
May 05 22:12:57 <Patrick>	2nd comment down
May 05 22:13:35 <allan>	Thanks for listening
May 05 22:13:50 <dann>	thank you all for listening and hanging out with us this cinco de mayo
May 05 22:13:54 <Patrick>	good night
May 05 22:13:58 <Pog>	Goodnight everyone.
May 05 22:14:04 <mikeyp>	goodnight guys
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May 05 22:14:41 <linc>	g'night johnboy
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