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May 19 20:30:37 -->	You are now talking on #techshow
May 19 20:34:47 -->	soc10path (~soc10path@65.6.96.50) has joined #techshow
May 19 20:47:35 <dann>	hallo
May 19 20:47:51 <linc>	hollow?  Halow?
May 19 20:48:45 <soc10path>	hellooo
May 19 20:53:30 <linc>	did you have any probs connecting to the irc so c?
May 19 20:53:45 <allan>	Hello
May 19 20:54:31 <soc10path>	yeah, it wasn't responding to my ident
May 19 20:54:43 <soc10path>	i'm using xchat which has identd built in i think
May 19 20:54:57 <linc>	i had the same issue as well
May 19 20:55:07 <dann>	gotta figure out what the beef is.
May 19 20:55:10 <soc10path>	if i let it reconnect a few times, it let's me in
May 19 20:55:15 <linc>	it eventually resolved on it's own but took a minute
May 19 20:55:16 <dann>	Just changed ip's two days ago.
May 19 20:55:29 <dann>	been a while since I set up and irc server.
May 19 20:55:33 <dann>	gotta read the docs again.
May 19 20:55:58 <soc10path>	can you monitor how many people are listening live?
May 19 20:57:09 <dann>	yup
May 19 20:57:11 <dann>	looking now.
May 19 20:57:18 <dann>	one person connectedc.
May 19 20:57:23 <soc10path>	cool... how many do you usuall get ?
May 19 20:57:26 <soc10path>	that one person is me
May 19 20:57:28 <soc10path>	:)
May 19 20:57:46 <dann>	sorry, now there are three listeners
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May 19 20:58:10 <soc10path>	do you guys have it listening somewhere to monitor the stream?
May 19 20:58:16 <Patrick>	hello
May 19 20:58:27 <Patrick>	it took forever to connect to the irc
May 19 20:58:27 <linc>	hi
May 19 20:58:45 <dann>	yeah, we know.  Have to work out the bugs on that.  Now sure why.  Something to do with the 
May 19 20:58:48 <dann>	ident and auth.
May 19 20:58:57 <dann>	Allan listens to the stream from his laptop.
May 19 20:59:05 <linc>	Thats because your windows machine is all virus infested Pat..
May 19 20:59:09 <Patrick>	it least it works :)
May 19 20:59:17 <dann>	so if it goes down we know about it about 30 seconds later.
May 19 20:59:19 <Patrick>	i have xchat for win98 :)
May 19 20:59:26 <Patrick>	and xmms
May 19 21:02:01 <allan>	I only have a 15 second delay.
May 19 21:02:29 <dann>	yeah but by the time you figure out what is going in that adds another 15 seconds allan
May 19 21:02:58 <Patrick>	nice promo
May 19 21:03:13 <Patrick>	from calico jack
May 19 21:03:30 <Patrick>	new ISP!
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May 19 21:04:39 <Patrick>	anyone listen to SLUG radio?
May 19 21:04:47 <brian>	not me
May 19 21:04:47 <soc10path>	yeah, i heard slug
May 19 21:05:04 <Patrick>	those guys have serious Scottish accents!
May 19 21:05:12 <soc10path>	yeah, sometimes hard to understand
May 19 21:05:28 <Patrick>	if it's not Scottish it's crap!!
May 19 21:09:50 <Patrick>	I like the new linux radio portal
May 19 21:10:23 <brian>	sounds clearer
May 19 21:16:39 <Patrick>	we need a pool to predict when allan is going to post on his blog
May 19 21:17:21 <Patrick>	i keep losing the stream, anyone else having issues?
May 19 21:17:41 <soc10path>	no issues her
May 19 21:17:42 <soc10path>	e
May 19 21:17:46 <brian>	ditto
May 19 21:18:06 <Patrick>	crappy service electric cable modem
May 19 21:19:56 <Patrick>	i don't read linux gazzette
May 19 21:20:12 <allan>	Now you have a reason!
May 19 21:20:24 <Patrick>	online i read slashdot, linux today, newsforge and drudgereport
May 19 21:20:26 <dann>	yeah.  A reason.
May 19 21:20:47 <dann>	but you miss all the excitement.
May 19 21:21:19 <Patrick>	my free linux world subscription just ran out
May 19 21:21:59 <Patrick>	it's expensive, $52 a year?
May 19 21:22:03 <dann>	how did you get a free subscription?
May 19 21:22:09 <Patrick>	I'll stick with linux journal
May 19 21:22:17 <brian>	i had a free tial of Linux World too
May 19 21:22:21 <brian>	trial*
May 19 21:22:27 <Patrick>	I don't know, I must of had my ID swiped at the expo
May 19 21:22:33 <brian>	yeah
May 19 21:22:44 <brian>	I took a free one and they swiped my card
May 19 21:23:23 <Patrick>	we need to publize this radio deal
May 19 21:23:35 <Patrick>	linux questions, newsforge, slashdot
May 19 21:23:38 <Patrick>	where else?
May 19 21:24:00 <Patrick>	what are the chances of having the linux show mention it?
May 19 21:24:07 <Patrick>	zero to nil?!
May 19 21:24:56 <Patrick>	russ is too busy planning a hot tub party with Eric Raymond and Linux
May 19 21:25:01 <Patrick>	Linus
May 19 21:25:36 <Patrick>	no farting in the cushions!
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May 19 21:26:49 <Patrick>	crap jokes are always funny!
May 19 21:27:02 <Moondog>	Hello All
May 19 21:27:05 <Patrick>	gasiest foods?
May 19 21:27:07 <soc10path>	hola
May 19 21:27:21 <Patrick>	raw coliflower and stale beer
May 19 21:27:28 <Patrick>	boiled eggs
May 19 21:27:37 <Moondog>	Anyone here running qmail..SUPERVISED
May 19 21:27:40 <brian>	deviled eggs
May 19 21:28:08 <allan>	Cabbage diet
May 19 21:28:14 <soc10path>	application of the week should be ms word
May 19 21:28:16 <Patrick>	track 4
May 19 21:29:17 <Patrick>	thanks linc
May 19 21:29:25 <brian>	ms word yuck
May 19 21:29:50 <soc10path>	lol
May 19 21:31:26 <brian>	sounds like this band was influenced by Rush
May 19 21:31:56 <dann>	I run qmail, but not supervised.  May look into it now.
May 19 21:32:01 <dann>	you having issues?
May 19 21:32:18 <Moondog>	I cant kill qmail with any commands....it wond DIE
May 19 21:33:13 <Moondog>	svc -d qmail-smtpd does not work..as well as kill -9. qmailctl stop has no effect either...
May 19 21:33:50 <dann>	svc -t /service/qmail not working
May 19 21:34:22 <soc10path>	i don't like lugradio b/c they make negative comments about every other show like they're the best
May 19 21:34:23 <Patrick>	/dev/dustbin
May 19 21:34:46 <Patrick>	XP will run on a 286
May 19 21:35:01 <Patrick>	not
May 19 21:35:13 <Moondog>	it just laughs at that command....
May 19 21:35:25 <Patrick>	slackintosh
May 19 21:35:54 <soc10path>	knoppix
May 19 21:36:00 <Patrick>	i'll take obscure slack variants for $500 Alex
May 19 21:36:32 <soc10path>	oh the horror
May 19 21:40:31 <Patrick>	my LVLUG posting on linuxquestions has 121 hits:
May 19 21:40:43 <Patrick>	http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/forumdisplay.php?forumid=51
May 19 21:41:19 <Patrick>	4th most of the lugs listed
May 19 21:42:47 <allan>	http://slax.linux-live.org/download.php
May 19 21:43:03 <allan>	Build your own live cd
May 19 21:44:17 <Patrick>	eff apple!
May 19 21:44:24 <Moondog>	I had to kill the svscan process for me to be able to stop qmail.....Works like a charm
May 19 21:44:25 <soc10path>	i would think cisco
May 19 21:44:40 <Patrick>	how long till apple sues PearPC?
May 19 21:45:35 <soc10path>	that's the american way
May 19 21:45:40 <Patrick>	or releases OSX for X86?
May 19 21:45:43 <soc10path>	patent everything and sell the rights
May 19 21:45:52 <brian>	IBM gets a lot of patents too
May 19 21:46:00 <Patrick>	lawyers are bringing this country down
May 19 21:46:18 <brian>	people are trying to patent ideas
May 19 21:46:39 <soc10path>	b/c multi desktops are confusing to new users
May 19 21:47:17 <soc10path>	it won't get patented b/c of prior art
May 19 21:47:20 <brian>	it's not the lawyers, it's the people who give in when an ambulance chaser contacts them
May 19 21:47:40 <brian>	if people stopped that, we;d have less lawyers
May 19 21:47:57 <Patrick>	you see those commercials during judge judy on Fox in Philly
May 19 21:48:08 <dann>	don't watch judge judy
May 19 21:49:41 <brian>	with XP they managed to put everything one click deeper
May 19 21:50:20 <Patrick>	what's shutdown?
May 19 21:50:33 <soc10path>	can linux have this wonderful shutdown thing too?
May 19 21:50:44 <Patrick>	win98 is the last version of windoze I will ever buy
May 19 21:50:45 <soc10path>	i've never used it on my linux boxes
May 19 21:51:15 <soc10path>	now it's an apple laptop
May 19 21:52:09 <soc10path>	extra screws = more efficient than the engineers that designed it
May 19 21:54:29 <dann>	yeah, that's a good one.
May 19 21:55:00 <Patrick>	i got one
May 19 21:55:07 <Patrick>	zippy keyboard
May 19 21:55:35 <Patrick>	http://www.directron.com/el715.html
May 19 21:55:42 <Patrick>	purdy!
May 19 21:56:09 <soc10path>	that's cool
May 19 21:56:32 <soc10path>	are the keys like a laptop keys or a regular keyboard?
May 19 21:56:52 <Patrick>	closer to a laptop but full size
May 19 21:57:20 <Patrick>	it has all the necessary keys plus the useless win key
May 19 21:57:55 <dann>	looks beautiful, but the price will kill ya
May 19 21:58:05 <soc10path>	$42 isn't a lot
May 19 21:58:10 <Patrick>	all i need now is a big silver box and matchin monitor
May 19 21:58:31 <Patrick>	I paid $36
May 19 21:59:57 <Patrick>	from here:
May 19 21:59:59 <Patrick>	http://store.sysbuilder.com/zielelluke.html
May 19 22:00:13 <dann>	one of those cases with the led's and the glowing trips.  A window into the side of the system with a watercooled, overclocked cpu.
May 19 22:00:26 <Patrick>	quad opteron!
May 19 22:00:38 <Patrick>	to dream!
May 19 22:01:18 <dann>	that direct.com page, is it falling apart in your browser too?
May 19 22:01:31 <dann>	the right side menu is floating over the body of the text in firefox.
May 19 22:01:31 <soc10path>	works fine in firefox
May 19 22:02:06 <soc10path>	firefox 0.8 i mean
May 19 22:02:07 <dann>	what screen size are you using?
May 19 22:02:16 <Patrick>	it messed up in my firefox
May 19 22:02:23 <soc10path>	1440x1280 or so
May 19 22:02:47 <soc10path>	1400x1050
May 19 22:03:22 <dann>	that would explain it.  Resize the screen under 1024x769 and the menu should overlap the body
May 19 22:03:36 <soc10path>	i see
May 19 22:04:31 <Patrick>	good night fellas
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May 19 22:06:08 <brian>	yeah it was in the news
May 19 22:06:20 <brian>	UFO thing in Mex
May 19 22:06:54 <soc10path>	i thought it was some fighter jets in MX that got it on radar and infared
May 19 22:07:15 <soc10path>	the big news was that mexico actually HAS fighter jets
May 19 22:07:29 <dann>	aawwwe, poor mexico.
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May 19 22:09:09 <brian>	probably old f-16's we sold them in 1985
May 19 22:10:14 <allan>	Thanks for listening
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May 19 22:11:00 <linc>	G'night all!
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