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May 26 20:55:32 -->	You are now talking on #techshow
May 26 20:57:29 <linc>	Yeah baby!  Rampin' up for another exciting edition of TLLTS!
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May 26 20:58:18 <Patrick>	good evening
May 26 20:58:48 <Patrick>	i hear my old demo
May 26 20:59:00 <Patrick>	what do you think?
May 26 20:59:08 <linc>	you listen to the stream during the week, you'd hear a lot of your stuff
May 26 20:59:29 <Patrick>	i have problems connecting thru the firewall at work
May 26 20:59:35 <Patrick>	thanks for playing it
May 26 20:59:43 <linc>	it plays a lot
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May 26 21:00:02 <Patrick>	you still looking for some content to fill the gaps?
May 26 21:00:14 <linc>	yup
May 26 21:00:33 <Patrick>	I'm down for doing a segment
May 26 21:00:44 <linc>	do it man!
May 26 21:01:21 <Patrick>	multmedia anybody?
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May 26 21:02:48 <linc>	here we go.........................
May 26 21:02:53 <RoverVAIO>	:)
May 26 21:02:54 <dann>	sorry, pressed the wrong button
May 26 21:03:07 <allan>	Once Dann pushes the right button!
May 26 21:03:13 <Patrick>	rovervaio,  you have a vaio?
May 26 21:03:16 <dann>	shutup
May 26 21:03:24 <RoverVAIO>	yes  my laptop
May 26 21:03:34 <Patrick>	how do like it?
May 26 21:03:49 <RoverVAIO>	had it for about 3 years :)
May 26 21:03:56 <Patrick>	they seem like pretty good machines, what distro you have running on it?
May 26 21:04:02 <RoverVAIO>	98SE
May 26 21:04:13 <Patrick>	:(
May 26 21:04:17 <RoverVAIO>	won't take redhat
May 26 21:04:42 <RoverVAIO>	fyi  I'm listening to show for info 
May 26 21:04:44 <Patrick>	how about slack or mandrake?
May 26 21:04:59 <RoverVAIO>	I have a compiled list of computer shows
May 26 21:05:22 <RoverVAIO>	this machine goes with me on service calls
May 26 21:05:23 <Patrick>	I just got rid of a dell inspiron. I had RH, Mandrake and eventually Debian on it
May 26 21:05:48 <RoverVAIO>	all customers have win 95/98/2000/ or XP on them
May 26 21:05:54 <Patrick>	Debian was a bitch, Mandrake was very easy
May 26 21:06:28 <Patrick>	Once I got it configured Debian ran quite well
May 26 21:06:57 <RoverVAIO>	:)  Have FEDORA on ICS computer  still working on it :)
May 26 21:07:16 <Patrick>	where does it die?
May 26 21:07:22 <RoverVAIO>	here is a link for my show file  http://tinyurl.com/2h5tn
May 26 21:07:45 <Patrick>	have you tried knoppix to see if it boots up?
May 26 21:07:51 <pablo7>	linc: great commercial, listening to the stream now.
May 26 21:07:54 <RoverVAIO>	want this machine and others on the network to access the internet
May 26 21:10:30 <brian>	I got a topic: how about how fedora core 2 p*sses me off
May 26 21:10:53 <Patrick>	I gave up on RH around version 6.1
May 26 21:11:15 <Patrick>	RH is the distro a lot of people start with
May 26 21:11:24 <Patrick>	then move on to better distros :)
May 26 21:11:40 <allan>	Go Slackware
May 26 21:11:42 <brian>	i was looking forward to fc2, but it didn't take on my machine. Thought it was the video card but I tried three different ones
May 26 21:11:43 <Patrick>	In reality Suse and RH have become the corporate linux distros
May 26 21:11:57 <RoverVAIO>	I tryied RH 7.3 & 9  could not get wireless to work  tried Fedora  it works great now :)
May 26 21:12:20 <brian>	wireless: worked ok with fc1 and mandrake 9.0 and 9.2
May 26 21:12:52 <Patrick>	the prism 2 card was a pain in the ass except with Mandrake
May 26 21:12:56 <brian>	my desktop is the machine that seems to dislike fedora
May 26 21:13:25 <Patrick>	I thinking of my next desktop and pondering the 64bit issue
May 26 21:13:47 <Patrick>	Gentoo or Suse
May 26 21:14:04 <brian>	i heard gentoo is a lot of work
May 26 21:14:19 <Patrick>	It took forever on my current desktop 800mhz
May 26 21:14:22 <brian>	and that doing a root canal on yourself is more pleasant
May 26 21:14:35 <Patrick>	like 3 days to get it all setup, this was version 1.4
May 26 21:14:40 <brian>	wow
May 26 21:14:45 <brian>	no kiddin'
May 26 21:14:46 <Patrick>	I sure it's better on a fast machine
May 26 21:14:58 <Patrick>	and with the newer version
May 26 21:15:16 <brian>	plus, you've already done it once...
May 26 21:15:27 <Patrick>	I've been trolling the Gentoo AMD64 forum, sounds like there are still some issues
May 26 21:15:51 <Patrick>	certain mobo's and different device drivers
May 26 21:16:29 <Patrick>	I'm back to running Slack on my main machine, got it up and running in under an hour :)\
May 26 21:16:53 <Patrick>	It staying on this machine from now on
May 26 21:17:24 <RoverVAIO>	Patrick  :) 
May 26 21:18:09 <Patrick>	I've been getting to the video editing and my current 800mhz machine is not cutting it
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May 26 21:18:41 <Patrick>	I was considering getting an Apple but the more I think of them the more it pisses me off
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May 26 21:18:46 <brian>	lol
May 26 21:18:54 <RoverVAIO>	wb dann
May 26 21:18:54 <Patrick>	Apple is worse than M$, eff em!
May 26 21:19:23 <brian>	my wife;s cousin has one of those 17 inch screen laptops. the are nice.
May 26 21:19:30 <brian>	they*
May 26 21:19:34 <RoverVAIO>	patrick true APPLE does not like to share info
May 26 21:19:38 <Patrick>	I'm leaning toward a dual Opteron system
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May 26 21:19:50 <brian>	but I haven't used Apple since about 1992
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May 26 21:20:20 <Patrick>	To be honest I was never an Apple guy, Vic20, C64, Amiga then PC
May 26 21:20:27 <brian>	kde 3.2.2 is nice
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May 26 21:20:36 <Patrick>	kde 3.2.2 is nice
May 26 21:20:40 <Patrick>	kmail is easy
May 26 21:20:48 <Patrick>	it works like a champ for me
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May 26 21:21:01 <RoverVAIO>	I have worked with apple/macs  
May 26 21:21:19 <Patrick>	the new macs are nice, but the apple fan boys are very annoying
May 26 21:21:45 <RoverVAIO>	I had an old 386 SX25  that could out do a new (1995) mac
May 26 21:21:45 <allan>	macs + yellowdog = sweet
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May 26 21:22:01 <Patrick>	Check out this forum: http://forums.macrumors.com/
May 26 21:22:17 <brian>	what's with people getting booted off the irc?
May 26 21:22:24 <Patrick>	it seems all they talk about is how they can't wait to spend their money on the newest apple gear
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May 26 21:23:00 <Patrick>	they make the linux zealots look like amateurs!
May 26 21:23:12 <brian>	thunderbird is nice too; like it more than kmail
May 26 21:23:33 <Patrick>	I always liked MadDog 20-20 :)
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May 26 21:24:00 <Patrick>	winno wine!
May 26 21:24:03 <brian>	lol. maddog. used to buy it in college; $2 a bottle. lol
May 26 21:24:21 <Patrick>	exactly!
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May 26 21:24:29 <brian>	tasked like turpentine mixed with kool-aid
May 26 21:24:34 <RoverVAIO>	everyone pop-off for 3 mins  so Dann can get OPS status
May 26 21:24:35 <Patrick>	yup
May 26 21:24:45 <Patrick>	ok
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May 26 21:25:17 ---	#techshow :You're not channel operator
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May 26 21:26:32 <Patrick>	I've turned many windoze users onto Firefox
May 26 21:26:36 <RoverVAIO>	ok  we tried
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May 26 21:26:41 <Patrick>	they love it
May 26 21:27:44 <RoverVAIO>	fyi  stream link work with WIN AMP  (better than Real player)
May 26 21:27:52 <Patrick>	tab browsing, popup blocker, cool
May 26 21:29:02 <Patrick>	I started on Compuserve when it was a BB with my C64 over a 300 baud modem!
May 26 21:29:12 <brian>	wow
May 26 21:29:15 <Patrick>	talk about dating myself :)
May 26 21:29:25 <brian>	blazing speed in those days
May 26 21:29:31 <Patrick>	it had a casette tape drive
May 26 21:29:42 <brian>	yes, I remember those.
May 26 21:29:47 <pablo7>	yup, things have come a long way since then.
May 26 21:29:49 <Patrick>	I was in heaven when we got a 5 1/4 floppy drive :)
May 26 21:29:55 <RoverVAIO>	lol  FORTAN 4    my 1st programming language
May 26 21:30:06 <Patrick>	turtle
May 26 21:30:06 <brian>	I took a business course in high school. Learned about punch cards.
May 26 21:30:45 <RoverVAIO>	we had to pull the card to prorgam :)
May 26 21:30:46 <Patrick>	my older brother was a comp-sci major and had those
May 26 21:30:57 <pablo7>	Would be chemical engineers and mathematicians still use Fortran.
May 26 21:31:01 <brian>	what did that 5 1/4 drive cost - $400?
May 26 21:31:23 <Patrick>	$350 in 1981?
May 26 21:31:38 <brian>	yeah. I knew they were expensive. 
May 26 21:31:53 <Patrick>	It was a lot of money for the time, I had a friend who had an Apple II
May 26 21:32:11 <Patrick>	Another friend ran a BB with an Atari 400
May 26 21:33:22 -->	JL (~none@DIALUP-145-157.TNKNO2.USIT.NET) has joined #techshow
May 26 21:33:28 <RoverVAIO>	hi jl
May 26 21:33:37 <JL>	Hi
May 26 21:33:45 <RoverVAIO>	http://thelinuxlink.net:8000
May 26 21:33:56 <RoverVAIO>	works in win AMP
May 26 21:34:02 <JL>	Yep, I'm listening
May 26 21:34:49 <RoverVAIO>	I tried it in REAL  died after a few mins
May 26 21:34:55 <Patrick>	brodband over power lines, interesting
May 26 21:35:07 <Patrick>	How much?
May 26 21:35:30 <brian>	they do that in Cincinnati
May 26 21:35:41 <brian>	http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/03/02/biz_biz1acin.html
May 26 21:35:46 <Patrick>	not bad
May 26 21:37:15 <brian>	HAM radio operators are strongly opposed to BPL
May 26 21:37:46 <brian>	Cinergy Broadband is teaming up with Current Communications Group, a Germantown, Md.-based technology company
May 26 21:38:29 <Patrick>	people still do ham?
May 26 21:38:41 <brian>	yeah. it's big.
May 26 21:38:58 <Patrick>	remember the CB craze during the late 70's
May 26 21:39:05 <brian>	cb is still used.
May 26 21:39:23 <Patrick>	when smokey and the bandit came out everyone ran out and got one
May 26 21:39:25 <brian>	but you're right. it seemd to be very popular then.
May 26 21:39:37 <Patrick>	truckers still use it right?
May 26 21:39:43 <brian>	yeah
May 26 21:42:30 <brian>	here's some info. on BPL:  http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid7_gci953137,00.html
May 26 21:42:31 <dann>	Linc uses cb
May 26 21:42:42 <linc>	yup used to
May 26 21:42:51 <brian>	I was thinking of getting it.
May 26 21:44:14 <brian>	I think the Dept. of Homeland Security should list that as means for 
May 26 21:44:17 <JL>	Any kind of broadband would be good here. Satellite is out of my price range.
May 26 21:44:32 <brian>	families to get in touch in an emergency
May 26 21:46:01 <brian>	it's range is only a few miles but it's better than being 
May 26 21:46:24 <brian>	stuck with no phone (cell/land) service
May 26 21:50:46 <allan>	Here's the ppl Link   http://www.pplbroadband.com/default.aspx?pageid=1
May 26 21:50:57 <brian>	gotta go. later all.
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May 26 21:52:49 <pablo7>	linc: sorry about wgetting the shows this weekend, only did it once though.
May 26 21:53:42 <linc>	that's no prob man - thats what they are there for.. Problem was it must have been you and 9 other people at the same time :-)
May 26 21:54:12 <linc>	now I have no problems though because I have a really nice mirror :-)
May 26 21:55:45 <dann>	http://fillets.sourceforge.net/
May 26 21:55:51 <dann>	fish fillets
May 26 21:55:53 <dann>	check it out.
May 26 21:56:30 <Patrick>	battlezone
May 26 21:56:45 <Patrick>	missile command
May 26 21:56:55 <linc>	battlezone rules
May 26 21:57:06 <Patrick>	those vector games were cool
May 26 21:57:14 <Patrick>	what was the other?
May 26 21:57:45 <allan>	asteriods
May 26 21:58:25 <Patrick>	no, it was the that had a dial control
May 26 21:58:39 <allan>	tempest
May 26 21:58:42 <Patrick>	yes
May 26 21:58:48 <Patrick>	that game rocked
May 26 21:59:06 <allan>	Spent many a quarter in that game.
May 26 21:59:12 <Patrick>	remember when dragons lair came out, everyone was so into that one
May 26 21:59:37 <allan>	Many quarters there too. 
May 26 22:00:04 <Patrick>	once you remebered the moves it was easy
May 26 22:01:11 <dann>	Dragon's Lair was beautiful.  That and Space Ace
May 26 22:01:21 <dann>	There was another one, Time Crisis or something.
May 26 22:01:57 <dann>	I heard the Dragon's Lair ended with Dirk having to go through the castle in reverse, not walking backwards, but to escape the whole game in reverse.
May 26 22:02:20 <Patrick>	didnt they re-release dragons lair?
May 26 22:02:34 <dann>	Yup.
May 26 22:02:50 <Patrick>	for the PC?
May 26 22:05:16 <dann>	anyone catch the reference to Dragon's Lair and Space Ace in an episode of Samurai Jack
May 26 22:06:18 <dann>	Dragon's Lair came out for the PC, Nintendo 64, Play Station.  I think it also came out for P2, GameCube,and Xbox.  Not sure about the latter 3, but I am pretty sure.
May 26 22:06:29 <dann>	It may have even been out for super nintendo.
May 26 22:07:46 <Patrick>	allan has to say fvck to keep the streak going :)
May 26 22:08:59 <Patrick>	how about the phone hybrid?
May 26 22:09:09 <allan>	http://thelinuxlink.net/allan/blog/
May 26 22:10:06 <Patrick>	Deadwood as the highest f bomb count
May 26 22:10:25 <allan>	Great show
May 26 22:10:43 <Patrick>	Sopranos has sucked all season except the last episode
May 26 22:10:59 <Patrick>	HBO gets turned off as soon as they're both over
May 26 22:11:11 <Patrick>	All those move channels suck!
May 26 22:11:46 <Patrick>	I prefer the $1 48 hour DVD rentals
May 26 22:12:10 <dann>	mcdonalds is startingto rent dvd's in a vending machine.
May 26 22:12:26 <JL>	That's just putting emphasis on the F.
May 26 22:12:30 <Patrick>	rent, rip, burn!
May 26 22:13:51 <Patrick>	ciao fellas!
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May 26 22:17:22 <pablo7>	part #techshow gonna watch another family show.
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May 26 22:21:58 <allan>	Thanks for listening
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May 26 22:22:45 <linc>	G'night everyone!
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