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Jun 16 20:59:42 <Patrick>	good evening
Jun 16 21:01:20 <brian>	hello
Jun 16 21:01:37 <Patrick>	which demo is this?
Jun 16 21:01:50 <Patrick>	not bad, sorta sounds like old Aerosmith
Jun 16 21:03:46 <Patrick>	hello Clevland!
Jun 16 21:04:29 <dann>	we're waiting on allan this week and he made me miss my que.
Jun 16 21:04:33 <dann>	queue
Jun 16 21:04:43 <dann>	now wait, that is cue, sorry
Jun 16 21:05:09 <dann>	I will tell you in  a minute
Jun 16 21:05:15 <Patrick>	just downloaded 2.6.7
Jun 16 21:06:01 <Jamesl>	Did that last night, compiled today
Jun 16 21:06:30 <dann>	got 2.6.7 the day after I patched 2.6.6
Jun 16 21:06:39 <dann>	too much kernel compiling!
Jun 16 21:07:03 <Patrick>	no shit!
Jun 16 21:07:17 <Jamesl>	It doesn't help the hardware here. I just compile so my systems are doing something. I dunno why.
Jun 16 21:07:41 <dann>	why not, huh?  why not indeed.
Jun 16 21:07:55 <Patrick>	if u like lots of compiling run gentoo!
Jun 16 21:08:17 <Jamesl>	No, I don't like that much compiling.
Jun 16 21:08:38 <Patrick>	gentoo is probably decent on a fast system
Jun 16 21:08:48 <Patrick>	dual 2.8's ?
Jun 16 21:09:12 <Patrick>	I'm lazy, packages all the way
Jun 16 21:09:17 <Jamesl>	Certainly not something I want to do on an old Pentium.
Jun 16 21:09:27 <Patrick>	tell me about it
Jun 16 21:09:56 <Patrick>	3 day Gentoo install, that's not including kde or gnome!!
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Jun 16 21:10:34 <Patrick>	what other linux generalities can we come with?
Jun 16 21:10:47 <Patrick>	slack is hard to install :)
Jun 16 21:11:14 <Jamesl>	Slack hard to install? I hope that's a joke.
Jun 16 21:11:26 <Patrick>	off course!
Jun 16 21:13:31 <Patrick>	knoppix almost never boots up properly :)
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Jun 16 21:16:23 <Jamesl>	He isn't doing 2.6 in 10. It's in testing.
Jun 16 21:16:48 <Patrick>	10.1 ?
Jun 16 21:17:12 <Jamesl>	He says he doesn't think it's ready and would delay release.
Jun 16 21:17:36 <Jamesl>	Right. It's there, just optional.
Jun 16 21:17:39 <Patrick>	I haven't had any issues upgrading with each 2.6 release
Jun 16 21:18:02 <Patrick>	linc, alsa sucks!
Jun 16 21:18:21 <dann>	I like alsa
Jun 16 21:18:41 <paul>	better than esd.
Jun 16 21:18:43 <dann>	much harder to config compared to oss though.
Jun 16 21:18:44 <Patrick>	it works, for the most part :)
Jun 16 21:18:55 <dann>	well, you need alsa or oss for esd to run properly.
Jun 16 21:19:13 <dann>	no sound card modules no esd.
Jun 16 21:19:44 <Patrick>	no problems moving to x.org
Jun 16 21:19:46 <Jamesl>	All it takes with some of the cards here is an alsaconf run and it's set. Raise the volume and play music.
Jun 16 21:19:48 <dann>	not at all.
Jun 16 21:20:33 <dann>	not with linc's.  Some funky trident 4d wave doohookiy
Jun 16 21:21:16 <Jamesl>	Don't think I've ever seen a trident sound card before
Jun 16 21:21:52 <dann>	come on over and take a look at linc's system.
Jun 16 21:22:26 <Jamesl>	Mailing the system to me would be more convenient.
Jun 16 21:24:42 <dann>	alright, I will pick it up tomorrow and send it cod.  Linc won't mind 
Jun 16 21:26:21 <Patrick>	mad dog
Jun 16 21:26:27 <Patrick>	20-20
Jun 16 21:26:36 <brian>	if you use IE you need Thunderbird
Jun 16 21:26:48 <Patrick>	fire fox!
Jun 16 21:27:24 <allan>	if you use IE you need Firefox!
Jun 16 21:29:41 <brian>	or a lobectomy
Jun 16 21:30:48 <Patrick>	this story may get sick very soon!
Jun 16 21:32:28 <brian>	bingo; you were right
Jun 16 21:32:30 <paul>	:6
Jun 16 21:32:35 <linc>	<puke>
Jun 16 21:32:56 <linc>	<barf>
Jun 16 21:32:58 <michele>	that's the excuse he uses (couldnt miss it) so he doesnt look like some perv
Jun 16 21:33:11 <linc>	right :-)
Jun 16 21:33:14 <Patrick>	i have a couple of sicker stories
Jun 16 21:33:16 <michele>	you know you liked it, Dann
Jun 16 21:33:32 <dann>	i helped him out.
Jun 16 21:35:22 <dann>	I said, let me hold that up for you there buddy, except I emphasized the d to sound more like a t.
Jun 16 21:35:41 <dann>	put a greek slant on it.  When he was finished I dropped the soap.
Jun 16 21:35:41 <Patrick>	phish, good riddance!
Jun 16 21:36:05 <Jamesl>	How creative...
Jun 16 21:36:28 <Jamesl>	I will now pray for lightning to fall from the sky and strike me dead.
Jun 16 21:36:45 <dann>	yes, we work hard to alienate our audience.
Jun 16 21:37:14 <michele>	Linc, did you pick this song?  sounds just like something you would be into
Jun 16 21:38:03 <linc>	It's one I heard browsing the archives.org site a while back.  It's the only thing I could think of at short notice so I set Allan out to find it :-)
Jun 16 21:39:36 <Patrick>	finally!
Jun 16 21:44:46 <paul>	who will crack that box?
Jun 16 21:45:00 <dann>	that is what I would like to know.
Jun 16 21:45:38 <Jamesl>	Microsoft is gonna start making antivirus, so I'll bet their security problems are over.
Jun 16 21:47:30 <paul>	no fud about it. ;)
Jun 16 21:53:27 <graeme64>	I think there is a checkbox on one of the install screens that asks if you want a graphical login - clearing that would give you run level 3
Jun 16 21:53:32 <Patrick>	i like kde 3.2
Jun 16 21:53:51 <Patrick>	i  mean 2.3.2
Jun 16 21:53:55 <Jamesl>	If those are the only 2 choices that a new user would have I could understand the memory requirements.
Jun 16 21:54:44 <brian>	yeah. I prefer kde 3.2.2. to Gnome 2.6
Jun 16 21:55:00 <paul>	uglifying v. to make undesireable in appearance.
Jun 16 21:55:02 <Patrick>	I'm confused :)
Jun 16 21:55:19 <graeme64>	I think they made the desktop plain so it looks appropriate in a business setting - RedHat do concentrate on the corporate market after all
Jun 16 21:55:41 <Patrick>	i gave up on RH a long time ago, RPM hell!
Jun 16 21:55:44 <dann>	uninspired and drab.
Jun 16 21:55:45 <Jamesl>	It would make sense. A business desktop should look somewhat like what they have.
Jun 16 21:55:55 <dann>	oh we are getting to that my friend, we are getting to rpm hell in just a minute.
Jun 16 21:56:24 <graeme64>	up2date worked pretty well for me when I used to use it
Jun 16 21:56:42 <brian>	Linspire
Jun 16 21:58:53 <Jamesl>	"How hard could it be?" Then the pain starts.
Jun 16 21:59:03 <linc>	heck yeah!
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Jun 16 22:00:21 <paul>	rpm n. stands for really pretty messy.
Jun 16 22:01:46 <paul>	i jumped off the bandwagon after installing RH8 in all its short-lived glory.
Jun 16 22:02:39 <Jamesl>	Of course they're going to look like that if you turn the users loose on them.
Jun 16 22:04:25 <Patrick>	last RH install I did was 6.1
Jun 16 22:04:29 <linc>	:-)  U aint kiddin!
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Jun 16 22:09:49 <Patrick>	just upgraded firefox & k3b, looks good
Jun 16 22:11:00 <Patrick>	how about the doom plugin that makes everything look like the A-HA video
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Jun 16 22:12:03 <Patrick>	how about the linux daily?
Jun 16 22:12:16 <Patrick>	when was the last time that came out?
Jun 16 22:12:57 <paul>	i guess their producer/intern walked.
Jun 16 22:13:30 <Patrick>	whatever you do don't ever talk about the weather!! :)
Jun 16 22:14:13 <Jamesl>	Yea, big dudes shaving their 'parts' is much better.
Jun 16 22:14:16 <Patrick>	go for it linc!
Jun 16 22:14:29 <Patrick>	waste 20 minutes, at least
Jun 16 22:15:04 <Patrick>	what's the weahter in western Canada? Northern England?
Jun 16 22:15:30 <Patrick>	I'm in a limo going to the airport!
Jun 16 22:16:44 <Patrick>	so I'm having Linus, Eric Raymond and RMS over for a hot tub party
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Jun 16 22:17:18 <dann>	hooha
Jun 16 22:17:46 <Patrick>	the wresting table!!
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Jun 16 22:18:41 <Patrick>	how about getting Paul Davis on, he's near Philly
Jun 16 22:19:10 <Jamesl>	Better keep away, he's got good aim with those guns.
Jun 16 22:19:11 <Patrick>	near King of Prussia
Jun 16 22:19:30 <Patrick>	we're in PA, We all have guns!!
Jun 16 22:20:14 <michele>	i will now have nightmares about hairy genitals
Jun 16 22:20:25 <Patrick>	join the club
Jun 16 22:20:52 <michele>	alright guys, enough about bathrooms, you're scaring me
Jun 16 22:20:52 <Patrick>	linc you have to learn  to multitask
Jun 16 22:21:24 <brian>	urinal talk is ok at the ballgame
Jun 16 22:21:37 <Patrick>	urine good health!
Jun 16 22:22:07 <michele>	i dont want to dump in public either
Jun 16 22:22:37 <michele>	you would care if the guy next to you takes a toxic dump
Jun 16 22:22:37 <Patrick>	this is the funniest episode you guys have ever done
Jun 16 22:22:56 <Patrick>	everyone appreciates poop humor
Jun 16 22:23:05 <michele>	dropping bombs isnt the only disgusting thing women do in the bathroom
Jun 16 22:23:19 <Jamesl>	I think I can see a reason Eric wouldn't call in now...
Jun 16 22:23:25 <Patrick>	burning the mule
Jun 16 22:23:39 <michele>	your very welcome
Jun 16 22:24:06 <michele>	i'm surprised no one jumped on that one
Jun 16 22:24:12 <Patrick>	oh no, college stories
Jun 16 22:24:30 <Patrick>	whitecaste, jack daniels ... not a good mixture!
Jun 16 22:25:02 <michele>	i still keep my toilet clean
Jun 16 22:25:05 <Patrick>	whitecastle and anything, not good
Jun 16 22:25:15 <michele>	what do you mean most of the time?????
Jun 16 22:25:21 <allan>	whitecastle are like drano
Jun 16 22:25:58 <Patrick>	it taste the first 5 minutes off the grill, that's about it
Jun 16 22:26:07 <Patrick>	later boys
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Jun 16 22:26:12 <brian>	later
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Jun 16 22:26:21 <allan>	Goodnight all
Jun 16 22:26:28 <dann>	thanks for listening
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Jun 16 22:27:10 <linc>	g'night everyone!
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