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Jul 07 20:46:09 -->	You are now talking on #techshow
Jul 07 20:46:09 ---	Topic for #techshow is We have always been at war with Eurasia.
Jul 07 20:46:09 ---	Topic for #techshow set by rjbs at Mon Jul  5 19:52:36
Jul 07 20:48:59 <Patrick>	pretty cool song
Jul 07 20:49:05 <Patrick>	reminds me of early maiden
Jul 07 20:49:36 <linc>	you should hear what were listening to over here :-)
Jul 07 20:50:11 <Patrick>	I like metal, old school metal: priest, maiden, sabbath, ozzy, dio, metallica
Jul 07 20:50:51 <Patrick>	I listen to all kinds of music though, anyone into jamming?
Jul 07 20:51:27 <Scott>	MEeee
Jul 07 20:51:55 <Patrick>	I play bass
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Jul 07 20:52:52 <Patrick>	I used to play in a prog rock/metal band, a long time ago
Jul 07 20:53:02 <Scott>	I play guitar
Jul 07 20:53:02 <linc>	i play badly on several instruments
Jul 07 20:53:04 <Scott>	Never played in a band
Jul 07 20:53:13 <Patrick>	cool, what kind of axe do u have?
Jul 07 20:53:24 -->	Jamesl (~none@DIALUP-145-195.TNKNO2.USIT.NET) has joined #techshow
Jul 07 20:54:12 <Patrick>	man these scottish dude have some serious accents, are they from Glasgow?
Jul 07 20:54:19 <linc>	yup
Jul 07 20:56:30 <linc>	hellooooooooooo
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Jul 07 20:56:37 <Patrick>	I was in Britain a few back, with the exception of the highlands Glasgow accents are the worst!
Jul 07 20:56:37 <Scott>	Patrick: My main two are an Ibanez S470 and a Fender Strat (american)
Jul 07 20:56:37 <Jamesl>	It takes some serious effort for me to decipher what the guys on slugradio are actually talking about sometimes.
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Jul 07 20:56:37 <Scott>	Patrick: I have an Ibanez acoustic as well, and some others that I enver really play
Jul 07 20:56:37 <Patrick>	Scott: I have a Rick, a musicman Stingray and a fretless I put together out of some parts
Jul 07 20:56:37 <Scott>	Nice
Jul 07 20:56:37 <Patrick>	I also have a Takamine 12 string acoustic and a Spannish guitar  I picked up in Madrid years ago
Jul 07 20:56:42 <linuxman2>	hey
Jul 07 20:56:57 <Patrick>	My favorite is the Rick, plays like butta!
Jul 07 20:57:15 <Scott>	Yeah, my friend has a Brian Moore electric, they're like butta too
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Jul 07 20:57:44 <Patrick>	I was considering getting a banjo or a mandolin
Jul 07 20:58:08 <Patrick>	I'm  feeling inspired after seeing "A Mighty Wind" :)
Jul 07 20:58:10 <Scott>	Hehe
Jul 07 20:58:14 <michele>	i dropped host
Jul 07 20:58:33 <Patrick>	me too
Jul 07 20:58:34 <linuxman2>	me too
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Jul 07 20:58:43 <michele>	ok think i'm coming back
Jul 07 20:58:48 <possum>	yeah, we have to switch the stream over.
Jul 07 20:58:53 <possum>	Should have done it about 20 minutes ago.
Jul 07 20:58:59 <michele>	nope was buffering but stopped
Jul 07 20:59:06 <possum>	run the command line version all week then jump on.
Jul 07 20:59:07 <linc>	try now
Jul 07 20:59:10 <Patrick>	we have quite a few people tonight
Jul 07 20:59:12 <linuxman2>	ok
Jul 07 20:59:14 <possum>	Is it buffer now.
Jul 07 20:59:19 <michele>	nothing yet
Jul 07 20:59:25 <linuxman2>	still nothing
Jul 07 20:59:26 <possum>	try again
Jul 07 20:59:30 <linuxman2>	ok
Jul 07 20:59:33 <linc>	should work now - we had a slight problem..  No power..
Jul 07 20:59:34 <USSROVER>	file not found 
Jul 07 20:59:35 <michele>	nope nothing
Jul 07 20:59:51 <Patrick>	all right who kicked the powerstrip?
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Jul 07 20:59:53 <michele>	still not found
Jul 07 21:00:30 <michele>	come on you techies get the show on the road, i still have nothing
Jul 07 21:00:59 <Patrick>	what is this the linux show?
Jul 07 21:01:09 <linc>	byte me
Jul 07 21:01:11 <Patrick>	:)
Jul 07 21:01:18 <linc>	still fnf?
Jul 07 21:01:24 <michele>	i wouldnt know dont listen to that show
Jul 07 21:01:26 <Jamesl>	Yes.
Jul 07 21:01:32 <brian>	same here
Jul 07 21:01:40 <Patrick>	nadda
Jul 07 21:01:50 <Jamesl>	Got it.
Jul 07 21:01:54 <possum>	oops
Jul 07 21:01:54 <michele>	okay i'm getting a little antsy
Jul 07 21:01:55 <Patrick>	it's back
Jul 07 21:02:00 <possum>	sorry about that.  Missed a button.
Jul 07 21:02:02 <linuxman2>	yes!
Jul 07 21:02:04 <brian>	es kommt
Jul 07 21:02:07 <linc>	everyone try now - workign here
Jul 07 21:02:08 <possum>	Alan had his shirt off and was distracting me.
Jul 07 21:02:09 <michele>	okeedokee i'm buffering
Jul 07 21:02:12 <allan>	It's ALIVE!!!
Jul 07 21:02:15 <USSROVER>	starting :)  thanks
Jul 07 21:02:36 <Patrick>	what's the topic tonight?
Jul 07 21:02:37 <linc>	waiting on dann to find his friggin mic :-)
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Jul 07 21:02:51 <Patrick>	dan, pull it out of your ass!
Jul 07 21:02:57 <linuxman2>	lol
Jul 07 21:03:53 <Patrick>	I just finished compiling 2.6.7
Jul 07 21:04:04 <Patrick>	I trying to get jack started, it's bombing on me
Jul 07 21:04:47 <Scott>	Patrick: Whats the error?
Jul 07 21:04:49 <Patrick>	I have qjackcntl working, it's spitting out:
Jul 07 21:04:53 <Scott>	I'm running 2.6.7-mm6
Jul 07 21:04:53 <Patrick>	jackstart -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2
Jul 07 21:05:04 <Patrick>	Could not start JACK. Sorry.
Jul 07 21:05:09 <Patrick>	err
Jul 07 21:05:10 <Scott>	Wait, what's jackstart ? 
Jul 07 21:05:27 <Patrick>	don't know that's what qjackcntl is using
Jul 07 21:05:51 <possum>	isn't jack and audio server?
Jul 07 21:05:57 <possum>	like esd and arts?
Jul 07 21:06:25 <linuxman2>	yeah
Jul 07 21:06:35 <Patrick>	yeah, I got the latest hydrogen from http://www.audioslack.com/
Jul 07 21:06:43 <Patrick>	it needs jack to run
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Jul 07 21:06:59 <Patrick>	let me try starting jack manually
Jul 07 21:08:38 *	rjbs ponders finally changing his network topology at home.
Jul 07 21:09:41 <linc>	changing topology?
Jul 07 21:12:19 <Patrick>	I'm back, I got it working
Jul 07 21:12:21 <init2null>	<insert rant against lindows here> :)
Jul 07 21:12:40 <Patrick>	I had to kill XMMS
Jul 07 21:13:14 <Patrick>	I was able to start it with this command:
Jul 07 21:13:17 <Patrick>	jackd -v -R -d alsa -d -r 44100 -H -z s
Jul 07 21:13:26 <Patrick>	hydrogen works well
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Jul 07 21:14:16 <possum>	ahhh, hydrogen.  That's some fun.
Jul 07 21:14:59 <Patrick>	There are some sweet new kits available
Jul 07 21:15:12 <linuxman2>	where?
Jul 07 21:16:00 <Patrick>	on the website:
Jul 07 21:16:01 <Patrick>	http://hydrogen.sourceforge.net/?p=drumkits
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Jul 07 21:20:14 <Patrick>	I'm back
Jul 07 21:21:24 <Patrick>	alsa can be a pain to get going but all the new audio apps use it as well as jack
Jul 07 21:21:54 <possum>	hot-babe, good one there Patrick.  Well work the few seconds to compile.
Jul 07 21:22:37 <Patrick>	or you can get it from slackpackages (if you're running Slack)
Jul 07 21:23:08 <Patrick>	I mean http://linuxpackages.net
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Jul 07 21:24:18 <Patrick>	there are so many audio apps on linux now
Jul 07 21:24:33 <Patrick>	I haven't had a chance to try them all
Jul 07 21:25:33 <Patrick>	this site is good for slack users:
Jul 07 21:25:37 <Patrick>	http://www.audioslack.com/packages.html
Jul 07 21:25:47 <allan>	Hot-babe (funny CPU meter):  http://dindinx.net/hotbabe/ 
Jul 07 21:26:13 <Patrick>	keep compiling!
Jul 07 21:26:43 <Patrick>	I got it going as well
Jul 07 21:27:25 <Patrick>	It's the geek equivalent of those mud-guards with the outline of a chick on it
Jul 07 21:29:22 <allan>	That would best describe it!
Jul 07 21:30:48 <Patrick>	I need to get more into these audio apps, I just don't have enough time!
Jul 07 21:31:07 <Patrick>	Hopefully when I take a week off in the near future I'll play with them
Jul 07 21:31:34 <Patrick>	Linc, do you have your top hat on?
Jul 07 21:39:57 <possum>	download the alpha version of hot linc:
Jul 07 21:40:16 <possum>	http://www.thelinuxlink.net/~dann/hot-linc-0.0.1.tar.gz
Jul 07 21:40:24 <Patrick>	the toy I would really like is an Ipod-mini
Jul 07 21:41:39 <rjbs>	mrs.rjbs has one.
Jul 07 21:41:54 <Patrick>	very cool but a little pricy
Jul 07 21:42:36 <rjbs>	worth the price, imo
Jul 07 21:42:43 *	rjbs loves his iPod.
Jul 07 21:42:52 <rjbs>	it's ipodalicious
Jul 07 21:42:57 <Patrick>	my sister has one, very cool
Jul 07 21:43:09 *	rjbs ordered the speakerdock from Altec-L today
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Jul 07 21:44:52 <Patrick>	dans compiling to get the full effect of hot-babe
Jul 07 21:45:04 <rjbs>	hot-babe?
Jul 07 21:45:09 <rjbs>	oh
Jul 07 21:45:42 <Patrick>	http://dindinx.net/hotbabe/
Jul 07 21:45:48 <rjbs>	yeah, got it
Jul 07 21:45:50 <rjbs>	well, saw it
Jul 07 21:46:14 <Patrick>	it's funny in a geekish, comic book kind of way
Jul 07 21:51:02 <Patrick>	alsa!!
Jul 07 21:53:25 <Patrick>	I'm settin up my skype account
Jul 07 21:53:33 <possum>	hot-linc alpha release 2 now available:  http://www.thelinuxlink.net/~dann/hot-linc-0.0.2.tar.gz
Jul 07 21:53:40 <possum>	this one is the hottest of the hot.
Jul 07 21:54:20 <Patrick>	skype looks cool
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Jul 07 21:55:44 <Jamesl>	I just can't bring myself to let swaret\slapt-get to upgrade to a whole new release of slack.
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Jul 07 21:55:56 <Patrick>	swaret works pretty well, I went from 9.1 to current
Jul 07 21:56:13 <Patrick>	just remember to omit lilo, kernel and maybe kde/gnome
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Jul 07 21:56:38 <Jamesl>	I'm downloading the 10 iso now though. On dialup.
Jul 07 21:56:58 <Patrick>	make sure to add linuxpackages.net to your repository list
Jul 07 21:57:21 <Jamesl>	I've had some 9.1 systems running for quite a while here.
Jul 07 21:58:18 <Patrick>	I've never had a problem with swaret, some people have claimed that it's hosed their system
Jul 07 21:58:40 <Patrick>	emerge hosed my gentoo install 1.5 years ago
Jul 07 21:58:42 <possum>	ouch, over dialup.  
Jul 07 21:59:01 <possum>	by the time you get that dl'd we could have a copy for you at the next lug meeting.
Jul 07 21:59:03 <Patrick>	:)
Jul 07 21:59:12 <possum>	Tuesday, July 13, 2004.  Shameless plug
Jul 07 21:59:21 <Patrick>	I might have to go back to Gentoo if I get an AMD64 system
Jul 07 21:59:30 <Jamesl>	Yea, it's fairly slow. I just let it run while I sleep. I got ~120MB done in a day. So I'll just keep going at it.
Jul 07 21:59:30 <Patrick>	No Slack for AMD64 :(
Jul 07 22:00:04 <Jamesl>	I don't install KDE, gnome or whatever so I should only need the first cd.
Jul 07 22:02:20 <Patrick>	Gentoo probably rocks on a 4gig quad processor
Jul 07 22:02:44 <Jamesl>	Oh yea, I'd say so.
Jul 07 22:03:49 <Patrick>	I'm considering a dual opteron system vs a G5
Jul 07 22:04:05 <possum>	somebody has money to burn
Jul 07 22:04:52 <Patrick>	not really
Jul 07 22:04:54 <Jamesl>	It could certainly cut down on the compile times.
Jul 07 22:05:08 <Patrick>	after I get my year end bonus
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Jul 07 22:05:31 <Patrick>	I've convinced my wife that I need a faster system to do video editing :)
Jul 07 22:06:35 <pablo7>	thanks ricardo, keep up the good work.
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Jul 07 22:07:20 <rjbs>	Eh? :)
Jul 07 22:07:21 <Patrick>	good nite
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Jul 07 22:07:43 <pablo7>	the quality for slug episode 4 is horrible, Dann.
Jul 07 22:07:56 <possum>	uh oh
Jul 07 22:08:24 <allan>	Thanks for Listening
Jul 07 22:08:27 <possum>	I'll see if I can finagle it.
Jul 07 22:08:38 <linc>	gnight everyone!
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