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<rignes> Hey
<rignes> What's up there?  I was just carving pumpkins with the kids. :D
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<init2null> Hi all
* rignes is squeamish...
<rignes> I made a terrible mistake.
<rignes> http://www.my-vasectomy.com/
<rignes> Informative, yet, pain inducing.  
<rignes> I still don't want to stand up.
<rignes> Sorry, I had to share the pain. ;)
<init2null> If you think I'm going there, you're crazy. :)
<rignes> Haha
<rignes> The thing is, I'm considering it.  Since my wife really can't take any form of birthcontrol. (screws with her bloodpressure)
<rignes> But I'm not so sure now...
<dann> ah what the hell, lop it off
* Scott is gettin' his boys tied when he can afford it
<init2null> Gleefully changing topic, has everybody read Jeff Gerhardt's letter about The Linux Show?
<init2null> http://mailman.ibssnet.com/pipermail/thelinuxshow/2004-October/000444.html
<rignes> I know it really doesn't hurt. BUT, just the idea of some dude with sharp things at the jewels...*shudder*
<rignes> Haha
<rignes> Scott: I think a good bit of rope died good and snuck should take care of it for you.  And won't cost ya a thing!
<rignes> snug
* Scott goes off to find some rope
<rignes> Now, what to listen to?  The debate or the techshow?
<dann> here is a link that will make that vasectomy stuff pale in comparison:  http://www.bmeworld.com/hormstr3/
<dann> you'll never be the same afterwards.  Trust me
<rignes> Oh no...
<rignes> Now the morbid curiosity kicks in.
<dann> don't do it
<dann> you'll regret it.
<dann> seriously
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<dann> I saw that shit over 3 years ago and the images still haunt me.
<Scott> dann: I hate you
<Scott> :oP
<Scott> You guys ever see the pics of a harlequin fetus?
<rignes> Well, that /does/ make the vasectomy not look nearly as bad!
<rignes> BRB, gonna read story to daughter.
<Scott> As horrible as this is I still find myself looking
<Scott> Don't read her that :oP
<dann> shit, it's now password protected
<dann> unless you have an adult pass
<Scott> HEhe at least that keeps me from looking further ;oD
<dann> cruise rotten.com ; that stuff is free
<dann> I do not have an interest in seeing harlequin fetus.  I've heard about it and that is enough for me
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<Scott> Aye I been there before
<dann> the whole kids thing, that is not something I want to look at.
<brian> I'm not the other brian
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<Scott> eW ew ew it's gross
<dann> now chicks with fish, that's some funky stuff
<Scott> brian brian?
<Scott> There's too many brians
<Scott> Can't keep track of em all
<Scott> I think we're in need of a whacking
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<Scott> dann: LoL ew
<dann> they must all be getting thier adult site pass
<Scott> Well I was only half serious abuot the whacking
<Scott> LoL
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<dann> red rover red rover pass under pass over 
<ROVER4> good evening eveyone
<dann> hallo
<ROVER4> web page idea  put this ( irc://thelinuxlink.net/techshow ) for the Chat with us live: section   it will open your IRC Client and bring you here to this room  automatically
<dann> good idea
<ROVER4> I use it on my show page ( the web version of my EXCEL list )  and in the EXCEL file
<jvastine> this intro is killing me...may be due to added stress trying to fix an idiots xp laptop
<ROVER4> http://tinyurl.com/2h5tn
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<aay> lo all
<ROVER4> hi aay
<allan> Hello all
<ROVER4> hi allan
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<ROVER4> hi flaming d
<flaming_d> okay, you need chatzilla installed for firefox to recognize irc protocol
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<ROVER4> 4Riaa is the only company that sues its own customers !!!!
<init2null> Umm, why doesn't SCO count?
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<Andrew> radio station do pay for the songs they play.
<ROVER4> true init2null  forgot about them
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<rignes> I think he was talking about in amsterdam they don't or something.
<init2null> Don't blame yourself. SCO is easy to forget. :)
<ROVER4> besides I hate RIAA  for the "stunts" they have pulled
<ROVER4> I have not bought any audio CDs in years
<rignes> diaRIAA.
<jvastine> riaa=recording industry association of assholes
<Andrew> BMI can be reasonable, If you want to play copyrighted music.
<rignes> ROVER4: Neither have I.  Mostly because there really hasn't been anything released good enough for me to actually spend the $$$ on.
<ROVER4> I think we the people shuold do a class action suit againt them
<rignes> Not for 1 good song on an entire CD.
<ROVER4> remember the audio / data cd-rs and the "price" difference between them
<aay> i got ipodder to run under crossover office...though i pretty much use bashpodder only. :-)
<ROVER4> the increase in price due to RIAA
<ROVER4> but there is no difference between data & audio CD-Rs
<rignes> I know that. 
<aay> the windows ipodder works fine under crossover.  but i prefer to have things running in the background with cron.  that's why bashpodder works better for me.
<ROVER4> that was to allow the downloading and "burning " of songs 
<Andrew> Many bands don't care if you download their stuff, its the record incs that care.
> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9590_22-5406365.html
<ROVER4> wait until LONGHORN comes out   many users will switch to LINUX 
<rignes> What like rjbs with his Mac and iPod? ;)
<dann> or mac
<dann> either one works for me because they both work so well together.
<mcslack> well, Macs rock, and having 'borrowed' one for a weekend, so do iPods...
<rignes> both are way to expensive for me.
<rignes> iPods look really nice, but I can't justify the 200+ $$ for a music player.
<init2null> I'll make a prediction: Longhorn will end up being like Windows ME. Muahaha!
<ROVER4> lol intit  lol :)
<rignes> Windowx XP Millenium.
<rignes> I read someone else call it that somewhere or other.
<rignes> The lint between my toes is smarter than the goverment of the US.
<rignes> What amazes me is that I've seen many people not even know where there files are.
<ROVER4> lol rignes
<rignes> I've had systems die and asked for where the files I should recover are, and they have no clue.  It's sad.
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<ROVER4> Xp when it work right is good  but get a bug in it  it is worse than a paper weight
<mcslack> right, same experiences for me rignes (I admin a 75 client XP/98 LAN at work)
<ROVER4> I spent a week working on one 3-5 hours a night
<rignes> Actually, a paper weight has a purpose, to hold down paper.  I'm not sure what a dead XP is good for.
<mcslack> servers are _all_ GNU/Linux however...keeps me sane...
<rignes> Heh
<ROVER4> had a virus buried in the OS somewhere could not get rid of it  and couldn't load any anti-virus on it
<rignes> mcslack: I can't seem to find a place to work that doesn't think linux is a hacked together OS written by pimply faced teenagers in the basement on weekends.
<ROVER4> ended up reloading the OS and installing AGV on it  and killing NORTON
<rignes> I try to tell them, and no one get's it.
<rignes> in fact, the one guy I work with refused to use gaim because "Well, if it's free then how can it be any good?"
<mcslack> wow, I 'sold' our prez on Communigate Pro on Linux...he went for it, it's been Linux servers ever since...
<rignes> I'm not a good salesman.
<ROVER4> rigneg  carry a baseball bat lol  >:)
<rignes> I could engrave pictures of tux on one side, and the word linux on the other.
<rignes> Perhaps, if I'm careful, can leave an imprint of tux on the guys forhead.
<mcslack> Linux servers = 
<mcslack> 'low overhead' (maybe why I'm still working there)
<mcslack> Bosses like low overhead...
<rignes> Sane bosses like low overhead.
<ROVER4> lol rignes  lol
<rignes> The problem is there are so few sane bosses.
<mcslack> indeed, good one ;)
<rignes> Atleast you were lucky enough to have one!
<mcslack> you're right...a decent boss is hard to find...
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<rignes> One day I'll tell you about my old one, he's a real winner...
<rjbs> it's spelled "weiner"
<rignes> Hehe
<rignes> That's it, I'll move to amsterdam when I get tired of our own goverment.
<Andrew> If this podcasting thing gets really big, i think BMI will start giving options to pay for the music played on a podcast.
<Andrew> NO i worked at a radio station and we paid for the music we played.
> see, thats what *I* thought!
<Andrew> I had to sit there and fill out thos freaking BMI forms
<rignes> I wonder how soon the RIAA will just sue the pants off of everyone and kill podcasting.
<Andrew> its BMI they have to send the list to.
<Andrew> Radio stations have to submit lists of all the songs they play aswell.
<Andrew> Again the damn BMI forms I had to fill out (lists of the songs we played for the day ).
<rignes> What's the purpose of the list?  So they know how much to charge?
<brian> submitting a list sounds like a gestapo tactic
<rignes> Well, the music industry is on that level it seems.
<brian> yeah
<Andrew> if your station has a blanket licanse from BMI you can play what you want as much as you want, but you have to submit a list of the songs you played so BMI can find out what songs are being played nation wide. then they use that information to find out how much money to give each artist.
<dann> http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/P18PS6YE02G2D0/103-9111434-9051050
<rignes> Total number of songs X pay per play / whatever number it takes to come out to $0.25
<Andrew> with a blanket licanse you pay a set price per month no matter how much music you play. but you still need to tell them what you did play.
<Andrew> if you don't have that kinda contract with BMI you pay per song.
<Andrew> and if your a little station you pay less. Low Power FM stations ( 100 watts or less ) can play as much music as they want for like $30 a month or something.
<ROVER4> question guys  did any say they (emails) find show via my list ??
<Andrew> so maybe something like that will emerge for podcasting.
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<ROVER4> http://tinyurl.com/2h5tn
<allan> Thanks for listening
<ROVER4> I'm have archive ( live shows ) links put in  have a vollentier
<ROVER4> section beeing added to file
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<dann> cool
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> Hey, thanks for listening everyone!
> gnight!
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