*** Starting logfile /home/linc/irc.log IRC log started Wed Dec 22 20:30:49 2004 *** Value of LOG set to ON with cars going by very quickly *** michele (~michele@pool-70-20-236-213.phil.east.verizon.net) has joined channel #techshow hello Linc & Mrs. Linc hello patrick Hey Linc, got my e-mail about the GUI, with the attached pic? Hi Michele! hello all *** init2null (~init2null@pppoe--69.29.2.252-rb.vcr.centurytel.net) has joined channel #techshow anyone listen to Dawn & Drew? Patrick haha hi all No gnews is good gnews with Gary gnu. hello just lost the stream Yup they're probably restarting that would be a good reason to go down > reason to go down? MICHELE! you wish linc > :-) nice try > we're just getting started - hang just a sec or two.. Danns new computer and all.. i can tell what's on your mind :-) what's everyone's favorite X-mas special on tv The same thing that is on most every mans mind at any given moment? this is try, rignes i mean trye I like the one with Heatmeiser, "A year without Santa?" here we go again...true *** Judland (~Judland@S01060007950c3083.ss.shawcable.net) has joined channel #techshow i am having a typing deficiency what's up Judland? how's it going in the great white north? Actually, I like the Rudolf the Rednose Reindeer one. that is my sister's favorite, too patrick she has it on video Hey Patrick. Not too much, just checking in to see when the show's to start tonight. It was always my favorite grwoing up Yes we can here you! we hear ya Linc It's cold up here tonight. Minus 25 Celcius right now. Brrrrrr that's cold i finally restarted stream everything ok Wow, Pat gets back and now there's a flood of slackware updates in current. yeah Dan, stooopid! Judland: where do you live? so, did the team manage to listen to the linux show yesterday? Canada probably Saskatoon Saskatchewan, Canada. the great white north!! Quite a mouthful, I know The use of metric made it my first guess. How big is Saskatoon? I've only been to Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal i told JEff Gerhardt that you guys wanted some of them to come on the shwo Oh, about this big (...................................) All of Canada is functionally the size of Iowa. he said he didn't know ... no one had invited him yoda: don't hold your breath it just looks bigger on maps first he had heard of it but seemed to say he would be happy to be on this show Every show is now filmed in Vancouver ... maybe an interview Every planet on Stargate looks like Vancouver :) Approx. 200,00 (+) population to be more accurate. And Smallville is really green for Kansas! Ops, that's 200,000. ratlette? is that like grappa? I guess not, grappa is the stuff from the bottom of the wine barrel grappa is what left after you scrap the bottom of the barrel. It terrible. LeonScape: kicks your ass though How about Ouzzo? Greek drink? might strong stuff Rather have raki or ouzzo. What's raki? Y'all.... that's funny, eh? I do a decent Scottish accent, If it's not Scottish, it's crap! Raki : http://www.turkishculture.org/culinary_arts/raki.html Linc: that's pretty bad My god its Dick Van Dyke! starts out good but fizzles Dan: a little better Brilliant! We have a Piperrrrr down. Attention, attention, a Piperrrr is down. dann is having way too much fun with the whole accent thing > http://nexus.colum.edu/user/morris/tijuanaxmas.htm LeonScape: Isn't drinking outlawed in Islam? I guess Turks aren't religious Patrick: things made from wheat or grape, yes. but pretty much, yeah. Yes, but theres more than one religion from the middle east, arab != islam. true, I knew a Lebanese guy who was Christian > http://eigenradio.media.mit.edu/christmas_2004.html Turkey was the east of the Eastern Orthodox church, after all. s/east/seat/ Here in the Lehigh Valley there's a sizeable Christian Syrian population (19:59) --> Patrick (~Patrick@00045A247574.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined #techshow oops. Merry Christmas everyone! Back at ya, buddy! Pass the egg nog! I talked to the LINE-EX guy today and he knows he mispronounces linux Seems like a nice guy Ah, mispronounciations aren't that big of deal. Better than that nine letter swear word starting with M! I like the heavy metal emotocons from the iron maiden bulletin board death to emoticons. ":)" was sufficient rjbs: agreed ;] nobody needs an animated smiley face that makes the sign of the devil and dances around ^_^ *** pablo7 (~chatzilla@adsl-211-213-166.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined channel #techshow -_- I like the the two guiness glasses coming together =) emote this ;) I'll TRY We use html in e-mail, and http for file transfer. Citadel: you going over a dial-up? its going to sounds like 'h, chop, i' Patrick no static DSL, its my slooow laptop Spreadsheets for databases.... last time I was on a fast wind0z box. free form databases please only free form I hear Dan typing away LETS ASKS AM hey linc what about mark's music BUH-BYE Right, the linux daily :) did anyone really like chris pirillo on the show? I couldn't stand him. > mark didnt give it to me.. init2null: Yeah he was a prat. oh, thought you just took it from him Dan: you make your own bed.... :-) :-D ;-) :-O :-( :~( >:( :-| :/ :-] :P :-P~~ :X :-9 *:o) 8-) o:-] >:-] "that's so cool, Citadel... how do ya do that? Linc: sounds like a sleeper jk, dann. init2null, he was a nutter is a nutter stinky pinky magical mozilla tour, anyone? *** vladster (~vladster@h-68-166-89-122.chcgilgm.covad.net) has joined channel #techshow you're not half-drunk all the time? who cares dann, supervisors are doing it too BOOOOO They took down shareconnector also. *** vladster_ (~vladster@h-68-166-89-122.chcgilgm.covad.net) has joined channel #techshow *** vladster has left channel #techshow It's a cheap/easy way to promote things... I think. Downloaded Elf, 'cause I wasn't sure how good it was... Thought it was funny so we bought the DVD. I got $1 dvds at the video place down the road from me all new releases sweet How was dodgeball *** linuxric (~user@82-38-73-227.cable.ubr07.brad.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined channel #techshow Haven't seen that one yet. Judland, i agree....i have purchased many audio cds after hearing them first through p2p Didn't like Ben Stiller's last few movies. they really can't shut down bittorrent. they're just making it harder to get. what's stopping archive.org from using bittorrents? it = bootleg copies Isn't Meet the Fockers coming out soon? today, i think *** Chad (~podcasts2@CPE-69-76-120-151.wi.rr.com) has joined channel #techshow What I hate is adverts on DVD's especially when they block you from skipping them ( Disney does this ). Fortunatley VLC lets me skip them. how do I open the show I haven't been to the movies in about a year a baby will do that for you :) you know it LeonScape: That's why I haven't replaced my LaserDisc player yet. Those movies I have on LD... NO ADS! EXCEPT THE LAWYERS! *** Andrew (~slicersna@alb-24-195-56-107.nycap.rr.com) has joined channel #techshow so dvd backups are illegal? Judland: got star wars? Last movie my wife and I went to see at the movies: Return Of The King. Judland: me too Patrick: Technically no, but the DMCA makes it so. What app do I open the show with last one i saw was the village Bunch of tools pablo7: Yup... both the old versions and the 1990's re-releases. I think a backup of a dvd for personal use is legal. vladster: xmms, real player RIAA and MPAA are trying to make fair use illegal it seems. NO MORE COMMERICALS!@#! Judland: very cool to see the original death star effect, eh? Andrew: agreed, copies for the kiddies to watch I know disney, and Fox are trying to block the BBC from selling their Childrens channels in america, because theres no advertising whatsoever. Actually, I watch the originals more than the re-makes. I haven't even bought them on DVD yet... too many changes. ohhh, I should have put on my Preperation-H ohhhh Judland: I think I'm getting them for x-mas Good eveing everyone! amazon is making interesting commericals with their amazon theater going to the movies sux I'm afraid I won't like the changes. But, would be interesting to watch the interviews. I like seeing young Anakin in episode 6. oops sorry for the spoiler everyone. commercials, high prices, assholes talking on the cell phone,.... Where are the ad's HERE?! There was a really cool car commercial on kontraband. thank god! what did Dan say I'm not into computer sale shows I like the linux expo, java expo Lol I just realized tonight is a TLLTS show * Exdaix tunes in Exdaix: DOOOOOH! http://tinyurl.com/3styp haha I wondered why there were so many people *** aay (~aay@tera-24-206-142-17.kw.tx.cebridge.net) has joined channel #techshow I use them to find obscure hardware howdy rignes: yeah thats a good ad, my mum whats a C4. haha which show aay: YO! those old shows were cool I actually enjoyed that ad. Usually car ads just piss me off. the old Trenton show was good Computer shows have gone down in quality over the years I think. rignes: I hate those car commercials with Sting just buy computer stuff from newegg. they had some nice shows/swap meets when i was on the west coast. haven't found anything since moving to houston. newegg rocks I'm still trying to figure out what a guy selling pocketknives and lighters has to do with a computer show. I built most of my new box from newegg lol Newegg rules plus the box from Directron my 2.6ghz p4 is all newegg. rignes: Cable splicing tools? Haha, Dann was so confused that night... I had to straighten him out on the AMD + ratings They have awesome support. I just RMAd back a 512 stick of PC3200 RAM and they didn't argue, just sent me a new one. and Ebay, mobo & processor $75 for a new MSI mobo and 2.4 ghz P4 Judland: Maybe, but who does that anymore? You just buy prebuilt cables. the computer i built for my roommate is all newegg they're some sweet barebone deals from tigerdirect I use Linux... I don't buy anything! ;o) That past few times I've been at computer shows there were so many rednecks that I think the sum total count of teeth in the building added up to about 2 mouths full. Mine was built from various sources sounds like a bad psu. I helped a co-worker put together a nice box, they paid like $389 for everything is there music going on in the background? the HDD board is dead. aay: yea i can barely hear it. whats with the music but i thought i noticed something. christmas music? just a little background music for your enjoyment I got this WD 120 HD for $40 providing the board supports the drive I always order drives online... pricewatch or simmlar. "I got this WD 120 HD for $40" where did you get that pat? it SHOULD default to the lower HDD not kill it... lol plus, any retail place here in minnesota, all the retail 'box' drives only have 1 year warrentys. screw that. get a nic 3 year warrenty 7200 drive or better. Circuit City advertised back in Sept, they didn't have them is stock, so I went to Best Buy and they matched the price. I bought 2. o man it does not kill it perse, but the kernel dumps out i've got to get better at doing backups. rsync seems to work well. The largest drive that my server supports is 80 I'm looking for a inexpensive drive for my mythtv box. I got this NEC dual layer DVD burner for $60 from newegg, it smokes I does video DVD's in under 15 minutes do all the hard-drives at stores have hidden windows recovery partitions? the intel bx chipset will not support more than 80 ngigs Patrick: you have a myth box as well right? were you ever able to get the tvout working? Seagate now has 5 year warrentys on ALL their harddrives. aay: the new box is the new mythbox, I'm having issues with the latest ivtv drivers *** Signoff: rignes (Quit: leaving) yeeeha! that is very nice warranty... Patrick: hmm. ok. sure i use the tv-out on my geforce 4 mx 440. aay: I haven't gotton to the tv-out yet works like a charm Citadel: do the Seagate hard-drives at stores have hidden windows recovery partitions? I really like the speed of this machine, I'm thinking of getting a video card with a tv-out, any reccomendations? yea, so sure, drives tend to die. but that warrenty lets you know your money will last 5 years. just make sure you have the data backed up. get an Nvidia geforce 4 card, the tv-out drives are great for linux. Andrew: i think Patrick and I both have Hauppage cards - I have the 350. I've heard the geforce works out of the box with myth though. aay: yup 350 pablo7 any new harddrive you buy will be 'blank' it shouldn't have ANY partitions. ya i have a $20 wintv go. holy crap. that's funny linc. Andrew: I'm thinking of getting a NVIDIA 5200fx $50 or so Gee, I hope to see you on the next American Idol! Citadel: maybe it's just the ones from OEM's then. lmao Linc: that's funny shit which distro on the CD? dynebolic *** rignes (~rignes@000D615723FD.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined channel #techshow corel linux 1.0 lol good ol' Corel pablo7 yea if you get a drive from HP or something, then when they run their 'system restore' discs on it. it creates those hidden special partitions. ubuntu dann: what a piece of shit that was pablo7, yeah... like in a del box... dell That FX would be overkill for just tv-out mythtv stuff. the MX 440 is really overkill in terms of of graphics card performance. But I really like the quality of the tv-out encoder chip on the 440, thats why i went with the geforce 4 over a geforce 2. that is whaty I am giveing to all my windows junkies yoda, nomastery from Macon? Andrew: this MSI card has onboard sis650 for video yea yoda nomasteryoda? nomasteryoda si that is me I'm not happy with it with the ivtv driver, I'm getting ghosting on the images I don't see the need for that special stuff. if your going to run windows, get the registation key, and install windows. forget all the OEM 'special software' the long nicks don't work here nymns... gotcha. so insead of no mastery i picked yoda Andrew: I never had that problem with the fc2 install and my old TNT2 Riva card Patrick: you using Fedora as the base? AHHHH i like to think i have some mastery ya an MSI Geforce FX should give you some great tv-out goodness. I thought the show started at 8 cst hehe Sounds like nightmare at carnival. aay: yup That's just anoying sounding. tonight show started 8:30 est if you take an old compaq form someone that hasn't ever touched it. and format the drive, fresh windows install. be AMAZED how much faster the machine will run afterwards. usually it's 9pm est Andrew: I'm thinking of using the box besides Mythtv, for the family room oh tonight was the 8:30? gah Any slack users her actually use the rollback feature of swaret? yep How well does it work? this is some wierd shit. that is 7:30 time for me Andrew: I pretty happy with FC3 on it, I hate to admit it but it works pretty well sounds like Metroid Prime I used have a program on the amiga, that generated music randomly, which was so much better. i think im gonna get sick *** sharpie (~sharpie@66-214-176-76.mpk-eres.charterpipeline.net) has joined channel #techshow Andrew: I have apt-get on FC3 and it's quite good, I'm impressed *** Ryochan7 (~Ryochan7@12-221-15-181.client.insightBB.com) has joined channel #techshow like the heads of all the windows junkies i'll have to go back and listen to the recording then. i didn't know that the show would be starting early. Amigas were awesome I had one even brandnew machines, if you wipe the drive, and install a fresh OS, linux, or windows whatever. now you don't have 15+ applications starting in the backround on boot. HEY!!!! That music gave me a headache. Sorry to say, I'm signing off for the night. Thanks, guys, for your time tonight. Happy holidays to all! dann you meanie started early so people could skype in instead of running past 10pm Damn, we got 27 people on the chat ill stand in for dann via skype haha Patrick: I still have two 1200's sround here somewhere. night, judland merry christmas happy holidays spam eggs sausage and spam gnight. Move it too thursday. broadcast on Christmas morning to make up for it But I don't like spam! SKYPE CALL IN MADDNESS!~!@#!@#! ya thats what i did for my mythtv box, FC3, the only real problem i've had is getting the NVIDIA kernel modules to modprobe. after doing some googleing i found some patched nvidia modules for FC3. I vote for thursday Its better live. apt-get does work really well. i'll be out of town and won't be able to listen wednesday anyway. WE CARE!!@#! Patrick: (or anyone else from the group) anytime you see me logged in on Skype feel free to chat a bit. so it won't matter if it's later. I love spam, I'll take spam spam spam spam spam and spam Andrew: I'm having problems with the ivtv modules loading up at boot time as well probably a lot of others will be gone next week too. Andrew: I think this is FC3 issue Thursday is cool Can I just have the spam eggs sausage and spam without the spam? *** Signoff: Judland (Quit: Leaving) can you load ivtv manually pat? ring in the new year with techshow Patrick Andrew which video capture cards do you have? I have a PVR-350 i have a wintv go. $20 Citadel: 350 too, a good card I prefer to bring in the new year with a bang. i was only kidding right skyphone? Patrick I'm trying very much so to get it working, I'm running Gentoo. I ment firworks yeah, that's what i ment. SKYPE CALL IN NOW!#!@#! i am? ill call again if you want Skype says you''re having problems with your sound device Skype? Dan If I wanted to i could walk downstairs and fire up skype. But I'm lazy. I tried talking to Citadel before, he sounded like crap having some technical difficulties haha okay Its R2D2! that sounds awesome. keep trying. thats my p266 sounds like he's scratching a record setup that network thing like lasttime okay brb linc: Citadel sounds better than your previous music :-) lol lol ah ha... Citadel did it lol where's allan when you need him Dan: Citadel sounded like crap before its mayhem