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<dann> hello
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<root> evening all
<root> grr
<root> brb
<root> exit
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<dann> anyone there?
<dann> listening to the stream yet?
<LeonScape> Yep listening!
<brian> yup
<dann> is the intro music playing?
<brian> yup
> hows it sound leo?
<LeonScape> Yes it is.
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<cody> that's better :-)
<LeonScape> Sounds Okay
<wdsmn-com> mirror stream at http://wdsmn.com:8000/techshow
> need to be louder, softer?
> it's an odd setup this time folks - we'll need sound input advice :-)
<dann> awsome, mirror stream
<LeonScape> Its got lounder, seems to hiccup?!?
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<init2null> hi all
<LeonScape> Okay now, no hiccups.
<wdsmn-com> louder please
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<wdsmn-com> better now
> wdsmn are you tim?
<wdsmn-com> yes
<cody> got turned onto the show by a friend after the linuxshow died
<dann> great!
<cody> I actually like it a lot more, wish I heard about it before
> yeah, we think we're pretty good :-) hahaha
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<cody> haha
<cody> not as preachy as the "other" show, That Jeff Gerheart guy drives me nuts
> HAHAHA!
<dann> he and linc are really tight 
<LeonScape> http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html good Linux CAD links.
<cody> yeah, I've been listening to the archives on my minidisc, I grasped that, haha
<cody> uh-oh my wdsmn stream barfed
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> uh-oh!
<rignes> Gotta love AMD. ;)
<cody> i just got a barton core xp 3000 dedicated box at layertech... it's screeming fast compared to my celery 1.3 box at EV!
<cody> EV1
<dann> sweet
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<dann> now what is the actual speed of the xp 3000?  Is that a 2.6ghz?
<cody> something like that
<cody> maybe 2.4
<rignes> http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html
<dann> it'd be nice if they actually named it after the processor speed, not what the speed of a comparable pentium would be.
<rignes> CLick the 2nd one down on the left.
<LeonScape> Barton XP 2600+ runs really well. Its 1920hz
<LeonScape> Should be MHz
<cody> I have an Athlon XP 1600 laptop, after an hour or two it's ready to melt into a puddle on the desk
<cody> haha
<apocxp> lol
<dann> rignes, would love to but if I do it might cut into the stream/skype.  But definely going to look into after the show
<rignes> It's related to the indian tech support linc's talking about.
<dann> cody, who makes it.  I know Dell has a reputation for developing lap heaters.
<LeonScape> Mine runs really cool about 35c Mind you its got a Huge Copper Cooler. 
<cody> Averatec
<cody> Super cheap thin and light
<cody> it was like $900 USD
<dann> how much?
<dann> not bad.  What's it running right now.
<cody> last year around this time
<cody> Ubuntu
<dann> oh yeah
<dann> ubuntu rocks
<dann> here I go whoring 
<cody> yep, it's nice on the laptop
<cody> Dell support was awesome 4 years ago, now it's sad
<apocxp> i haven't tried ubunu yet. I'm a Gnome guy myself, so it looks like a match made in heaven.
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<apocxp> How well does it run?
<cody> it's very fast
<cody> Suse crawled
<init2null> so, no friendly american dell interns from the commercials? <g>
<dann> lately suse has been crawling in anything I try it on
<dann> I get fed up and slap in slackware or something.
<delysid> init2null, not even close
<apocxp> well, with suse you need at least 256 MB ram to run the thing.
<cody> My latest laptop is a dell, I was going to buy something else but I got a great deal from a contact that works for them
> I have a dell laptop too - old, but works well.
<apocxp> i'm running vectorlinux(slackware based), on an old Gateway solo 2500
<apocxp> it works great
<cody> This ones pretty crazy, ispiron 8600, 1.8ghz dothon processor, 1GB ram, 8X DVDRW, 100GB hdd, WUXGA screen (1920x1200), ati radeon 9600 pro turbo video (128mb)
<brian> people I know got a brand new Dell - and the floppy carriage was not screwed in
<cody> i replaced my dual head desktop machine with it
<brian> it was just resting in the middle
<apocxp> sweet!
<brian> not surprisingly, one of the memory sticks was bad
<brian> but the support was excellent, if the guy wasn't from Texas he did a great job faking it
<brian> he even gave me his direct extension
<brian> i was shocked
<delysid> i thought dell was thinking of ditching the indian tech support due to complaints?
<cody> I called F5 tech support a couple weeks ago to ask about getting a support contract for our bigip load balancers at work. They wanted us to pay for all the time we didn't have support (ie catch up). I guess I'm buying arrowpoints in the future :-P
<brian> that's a scam
<cody> i mean, why should I have to buy support for the past 2 years to get current support, that's extortion. And like the boxes weren't $25,000 each to begin with.
<cody> highway robbery is what it is
<apocxp> they got you by the balls.
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<cody> exactly
<cody> F5 charges $25G's per loadbalancer, the boxes are just generic Pentium machines inside
<cody> the only other company I ever dealt with that was like that was Network Appliance
<cody> I made sausages for a year... *shudder*
<dann> by hand?
<cody> yeah, small shop
<cody> I was the meat grinder/mixer guy
<LeonScape> I know a guy who was a cat/dog food taster. 
<apocxp> yuck!
<dann> really, 
<brian> I'd rather eat tripe
<dann> what good does a human tasting pet food prove?
<cody> that's pretty sick
<cody> it proves that people will do anything for money
<cody> haha
<LeonScape> Yep, Aparently the meat wasn't bad, if it wasn't fit for Humans it wasn't fit for Dogs.
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<Michel> Hi guys ...
<brian> howdy
<cody> true dat
<Michel> ... selinux ... maybe something to talk about ... what is it?
<brian> Novell buying Suse
<cody> anyone ever use a minidisc hi-md on linux before?
<brian> or was that in '03?
<LeonScape> Novell/Suse was '04
<dann> anyone one here hve a helacious riders email account?
<apocxp> Novell/Suse/Ximian
<cody> SCO is such a joke
> minidisc hi-md ??  I have minidisc's - how do i do that?
<cody> hi-md is there new format
<cody> 1GB minidiscs
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> REALLY?!
<cody> and you can store data on them
<cody> yep, I got one last week
> where?  Link?
<cody> 1 sec
<cody> http://www.minidisc.org/hi-md_faq.html
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<cody> it's pretty cool
<LeonScape> 2004 - No patents in EU, well it was important to me being here.             Thanks Poland!
<cody> and it has ATRAC3plus, higher compression... like 34 hours of 128bit mp3 quality music per disc!
<cody> and it still uses my old minidiscs... you can reformat them in hi-md to double the usable space
<dann> cody you know how to mount the helacious rider email in linux like you can with gmail and gmailfs?
<cody> yikes, no. 1TB of pop3 storage... scary
<cody> thats a lot of p0rn
<LeonScape> and Viagra ads
<dann> snap you're talking about mini-discs and somehow I thought you were talking about the email
<cody> oh snap
<LeonScape> I though we where talking about the email.
<dann> are we?
<dann> what are we talking about?
<dann> there goes my ears.
<cody> sorry, I was rambling about the new minidisc format
<cody> linc was asking about it
<LeonScape> Skype seems to struggle with the music. Maybe to much to encode?
> quite possibly.
<Michel> ... the link through skype was choppy ...
<LeonScape> Its okay with just Linc and Allan.
<cody> you guys should have a $20,000 conference system... :-)
<LeonScape> with $60,000 worth of calls.
<cody> then you could drive through a tunnel and talk about the weather in california
<cody> good times to be had by all
<cody> :-)
<Michel> ... does anyone known what type of codec skype uses?
<dann> hang the phone out the car window and let it drag on the street
<LeonScape> Nope, I think its propritry.
<wdsmn-com> skype uses ILBC
<dann> it is proprietary
<cody> you guys should hack up some cantennas
<cody> do a linux link wan
> no clear line of sight and it's like 12 miles away..
<Michel> Thanks
* brian goes to feed the cat and wonders if it was taste-tested for quality assurance
<Michel> iLBC (internet Low Bitrate Codec) is a FREE speech codec ... Hey it is free!!!!
<LeonScape> LOL
> www.binrev.com
<brian> hmmm, the label says "Savory Taste". I wonder who signed off on that
<LeonScape> You'd be surprised, he got paid lots for it...
<brian> I bet
<delysid> blacklisted 411
<brian> it better be savory otherwise 9 Lives is getting a complaint call
<Michel> http://www.ilbcfreeware.org/    <<<- good presentation
<rignes> It thought it put a ^M at the end
<rignes> linc: I thought it did it by default too.
<rignes> rjbs would too.
<Michel> ^M will be displayed if a dos file is not detected
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<cody> What's the best distro to use on my sparc... I'm running solaris 10 but I was thinking of putting linux on my Ultra 5
<LeonScape> I can't find a vi option for it, maybe I'm missing something?
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<vladster> show live toinight?
<cody> yep
<vladster> now
<cody> yep
<vladster> hi guys
<brian> hello
<Michel> Half gin half orange juice
<rignes> You don't want to know what half and half is. 
<vladster> I am listening to the show on my first debian install
<Michel> :)
<rignes> I'm upset that I looked it up.
<Michel> LOL
<cody> our local cable isp gives us retarded bandwidth
<delysid> vladster, which debian? sarge? sid? woody?
<cody> 4.5 down, 1.5 up
<vladster> I ended up in using kde
<vladster> sarge
<cody> for $35 a month canadian
<delysid> yeah, sarge here too
<LeonScape> SID for me.
<vladster> I am still on the 386 kernel
<cody> yeah, I had that when i had digital TV, the delay is what made me change to Dish Network... 
<cody> I have te motorola box here collecting dust
<vladster> still gun shy to implement the 686 kernel due to the grief I went through to get the nvidia driver working
<cody> might have had 2 months use
<vladster> You liker living on the edge eh leon?
<delysid> vladster, how did you do it? i tried to install it with the debian kernel and it bitched that it was an unrecognized kernel
<LeonScape> Yep always on the edge
<vladster> I have a script that I use
<LeonScape> vladster: apt-get install kernel-image-2.X.X-686 nvidia-kernel-2.X.X-686
<vladster> I did it the debian way
<Michel> is 686 the 64 bit kernel?
<vladster> of course you will have to install libmikmod2 to get xmms to work because the intall process breaks a dependency
<delysid> LeonScape, are those debian packages only listed under unstable?
<cody> nope, my skype is codyswanson
<apocxp> i think modern 32-bit processors are i686.
<rignes> I don't show the linux link online?
<LeonScape> Nope there under Sarge for 2.4.27 I think. For Compiling I did http://www.leonscape.co.uk/linux/how2-nvg4.html
<rignes> What ID?
<apocxp> i don't know about 64-bit
<delysid> LeonScape, thanks! i will give it a try
<rignes> dann: What skype id should we be using?
<LeonScape> Don't forget the nvidia-settings package as well.
<vladster> delysid: the first thing you need to do is edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
<Michel> Ah ... FYI I use the FC3 2.6.10 kernel ... it works pretty good
<apocxp> thelinuxlinktechshow
<apocxp> that's the skype ID
<vladster> op two lines should
<vladster>                    say 'main contrib non-free' not 'main'
<vladster> directthex in the freenode debian channel guided me through it
<rignes> AHh, NOW I see you guys.
<delysid> vladster, cool...i may use him as a resource
<vladster> sure
<vladster> he is the best for setting up drivers
<rignes> Hold on, gotta turn up the mic
<dann> ringing rignes
<vladster> I could send you my script for the install
<delysid> vladster, if you do not mind
<vladster> let me see if I can get it out of the root directory
<cody> haha, weird
<rignes> haha
<rignes> I have headphones on.
<cody> what a crazy audio loop
<LeonScape> This is some serious Echo!!!
> wow, it's like roqw row row your boat!
<brian> aaaah woke up the whole house!
<apocxp> whoooooooaaaaa.
<Michel> lol
<rignes> BTW, I durned down the mic
<Michel> you guys just need feedback ...
<rignes> turned rather.
<cody> this sounds like a drug enduces episode
<brian> make this part of the promo
<rignes> In fact I just turned off my mic and speakers.
<Michel> acid bytes
<rignes> That sounds cool.
<vladster> apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) nvidia-settings nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common && m-a a-i nvidia && echo "nvidia" >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 
<rignes> Wow
<Michel> thank you!
<cody> that was insane
<rignes> haha
<vladster> this is the contents of the shell script
<rignes> Lost everyone
<delysid> vladster, thanks
<rignes> That was strange.
<vladster> the thing is to make sure the nvidia module loads at boot
<LeonScape> Professional as always ;)
<delysid> cool
<brian> hehe
<vladster> This does the nvidia install consistent with the way debian is organized
<delysid> that script? cool
<cody> for sure, ubuntu rocks my boxers
<rignes> Hey, I just noticed, that when I turn of the mic the sound also comes out of my speakers.  That's probably why the nasty feedback happened.
> boxer-roxers
<vladster> delysid: make sure you have nvidia listed in your /etc/modules file
<vladster> run SELinux
<vladster> is he on cable or dsl
<brian> nmap 'em now!
<brian> 'im
<rignes> heh
<delysid> nessus
<brian> hehe
<LeonScape> modconf after a reinstall, lets you put the modules in the Kernel. on Debian.
<apocxp> scanning him now...
<vladster> whats that IP?
<rignes> SURE!
<apocxp> 68.45.126.208
<brian> windows box? right. all we need is to get Bo2k on his box
* cody is trying to get podcasting working with his new MiniDisc
<rignes> I did it before, I'll do it again!
<cody> minicasting
<rignes> Odd.
<rignes> Forget it.
<vladster> check port 135 or 139, he should be listenning
<rignes> Hello, Brian is me.
<vladster> echo echo echo
<rignes> I don't know what's going on, the rest call for setting up skype worked.  
<rignes> And I turned off the stream. 
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<rignes> I'll figure it out later.
<dann> you using headphones?
<rignes> Yup, headphones.
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<rignes> I could try a different mic.
<wdsmn-com> how about using asterisk and SIP?
<rignes> Not like I have  anything important to say or anything. heh
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<rignes> Haha
<vladster> has anyone tried selinux as a webserver?
<cody> Linc gets like that around Jeff Gerheart
<LeonScape> LOL
> yeah :-)
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<vladster> linc how was ther setup
> how was who's setup?
<vladster> SELinux
<vladster> I was figuring on trying a weberver with sSELinux
<LeonScape> Even LUGRadio has a Paypal donate.
<rignes> Hey, I should put one on my blog and see how many people send me money.
<rignes> Not that I need it.
<LeonScape> To pay for the Skype.
<cody> hahaha
<rignes> Now, if I could just get skype to actually work.
<rjbs> I would too what?
<rignes> Anyone willing to help me out in figuring out why skype is all screwy?
<cody> haha
<LeonScape> rignes: Could do it tomorrow but not tonight.
<rignes> This was my first attempt at a skype call, I'm sure I'm missing someting.
<LeonScape> Does you mic work, can you record from it?
<cody> 2005... that sucks
<allan> Thanks for listening.
<rignes> Acually, I did the little simulated call and it worked when I setup skype.
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<init2null> good show, bye all
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> gnight everyone!
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<rignes> See ya
<rignes> SOrry for the feedback. :P
<LeonScape> gnight Linc
<vladster> that was no fun
<cody> night all
<rignes> I'll have to figure it out before the next show.
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<vladster> all I got wa a half hour
<LeonScape> I'll think I'll try to Skype next week, GF away Sking.
<vladster> scwewy wabbit
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