*** Starting logfile /home/linc/irc.log IRC log started Wed Jan 19 20:24:18 2005 *** Value of LOG set to ON http://localh.com/ bittorrent's wierd like that, sometimes you just seem to get crappy d/l rates my home connection is 3.5mbit down 1.5 mbit up.. at work we have multiple 100mbit links to the net in our colo facility. LOTS of bandwidth I was getting worse from the SuSE site it is not my end that is doing it make sure your isp isn't filtering the standard bt ports my ISP does that what about ftp ports they also filter outgoing smtp, it's annoying as shit quite, i can only get decent rates when I get past the router, port forwardsing doesnt seem to work if you're FTP'ing though a NAT make sure your transfering in pasv mode any other site, including debian, I am ripping down at 350kBs what's with the death metal? yeah, its ermmm, different some techo now Now for some Euro-trance! not bad death metal to techno... haha what the hell lol next it'll be Chopin no, Bach Chopin Broccoli! oh of course im pretty sure ive heard this song before sound familiar *** michele (~michele@pool-70-20-178-134.phil.east.verizon.net) has joined channel #techshow Its techno its all familiar like reggae oooh, controversial *** sharpie (~sharpie@66-214-176-76.mpk-eres.charterpipeline.net) has joined channel #techshow I listen to techno/trance/vocal trance... i can tell the differences between songs if you've heard one song you've heard them all Bob did not make songs like everyone else. I'm liking this one ... more than the song before yeah ditto I bet this a porno soundtrack Sounds like robert miles type stuff. *sigh* I like old school metal: priest, maiden, etc.. not deathmetal please Yeah and in a moment it'll just get interrupted by all of them farting into ther mics! everyone always has to bash the techno lol *** Urza9814 (~Brian@68-232-217-85.pittpa.adelphia.net) has joined channel #techshow brian: thanks for bringing down the tone. all we need is farting on the irc i like techo sorry :) lol the tone is always pretty low around here i can listen to almost any music except rap crap! im missing it! :( fomr what i can gather fomr? Okay now its just weird this almost sounds like doom3 lol ok not now it's Jono Do NOT listen to this on acid. Vocals are off its 8:32! Where are the bums? maybe its supposed to be like that? snowed in? Ouch Oh well they are there linc called and said he was at dann's it's only a couple of inches, I just shoveled the driveway Yeah we got some snow out this way pff a couple inches? Thats no excuse ;) We finally got some snow man, we got an ass-whooping by a snow storm on monday... 43cm and wind gusts over 115km/h jharmon: we are you? well down in Georgia we're having all time record lows... which means its like 20-30. haha yeah we are you? and we're going to get more tomorrow!! another 15-20cm comming with more high winds easton PA Ahh here we go.. show time! Where? Harrisburg, PA the guys in Canada and MN have it in the -20 - -40 range!! easton, PA yeah, it's 17C out right now UK jharmon: possible Nor'easter this weekend im in PA too...we got out of school early over here :P its 10 deg here in the UK cody, you need to convert that for us stooopid and fat Americans my dang car wouldn't start today because it is so cold 10 F or C? sorry, -17C I hate diesel dont you double it and add 30 degrees 10C so like 50 degrees F bout 50F then\ *** the_b (~bryan@ip68-99-253-65.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined channel #techshow yup -17C = 1F well 0C is 32F ... you guys are horrible at this close enough lol for every inc of 5 in C add 9 F http://www.isn.net/weather.html converter basically, we poms are warmer than you yanks :-) its all our nuclear power stations you see Where turning into the Linux Show, you do realise that? ;) anyway, -17C is fawking cold! cody, I'd say so ditto Dan is alone again no, they're there doesnt sound like a skype conference nice last week was freaky yeah, much better now The week before wasn't it? oh maybe yeah, they were together last week it sounded like an episode of the linux show however gay that sounds lol you guys need a subaru, AWD > snow my wife has got a subaru Wather on the IRC, weather on the show, It is turning into the Linux Show!!! arggghhh!!! I'll keep my 4X4 truck thanks i have a big ass Chevy Silverado pickup Patrick: yeah man awesome it's a effin tank!! * brian is eyeing the Silverado line my S10 is too small not as bad as one of those ridiculous Hummers * cody loves his WRX it makes winter fun Okay, everyone please give location, current temp, cloud cover, dew point, marometric reading... I picked up a bottle of this kick ass Belgian beer, Gnome, I kid you not * brian fires up the Kweather applet.... http://www.sysop.ca/pictures/image-cache/Cars/My_WRX/Freshly_Detailed/DCP_1349_disp1024.jpg :-) it has the lot number written on the label PHX AZ , clear sky, 71.6F, 35% humidity, 102.05 kPa just as long as you don't lick ballz! *** Signoff: jharmon (Quit: jharmon) *** jharmon (~jharmon@pcp0010571441pcs.fairvw01.pa.comcast.net) has joined channel #techshow oh man, I was joking and don't cha dare touch my ballz and now everyone is actualyl giving me their dew points *** rignes (~rignes@000D615723FD.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined channel #techshow haha, just me I'm a man that likes to stay dry dew point here is 15.4 F ? according to Kweather applet oh crikey, I haven't a clue what my dew point is Dew Point 6c w00t, Ubuntu RULES :-) How does one get a list of the package names for apt-get in abuntu? synaptic thingummy kinda like swaret -list -u for That's the word I was looking for. I tried unbuntu a couple weeks ago and didn't really like it sunrise 07:21, sunset 17:03 ok I'll stop now shut up brian :) ;) ndiswrapper dude :) that is that'll get that dirty wireless card working rignes: dpkg -l to list installed packages What, no windowmker for ubuntu? :( would you stop that beeping! Linc is beeping off beep this Pushing all the right buttons Uh-oh, the belching has started cody: Actually, I'd like to be able to list packages that are available from the repositories if possible. I have a 16' extension cord I could send him...I bought the wrong thing :-P ;optical wireless now there is a secure solution providing it is done with a laser rignes: apt-cache pkgnames Thanks. or apt-cache search [regex] I'm having a hell of a time getting a different window manager than gnome. /etc/sudoers that controls the people able to use sudo All I want it to get windowmaker running, but it appears to not be available. Time to download the source. also you can just passwd root and use the root account like normal :-) did you turn on universe for packages? rignes: make sure you list the universe and multiverse in yout sources deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse deb http://jrfonseca.dyndns.org/debian/ ./ The wonders of Debian package management. has anyone played with the new suse nope My lecturer has it running and showed it to me not sure what the major changes are to 9.1 make sure you put the version you're using in there, I'm using hoary but you may be using warty I d/led it. gona try it after I fix my burner. DEEBIAN! deeeeeeebian ubuntu > sliced bread :-) The Gentoo setup is so much easier than the Debian installer. ;) the mandrake installer is best :-P Doesnt ubuntu use anaconda? nothing uses anything. they say ubuntu's for newbies but i've gotten to the point where I'm sick of having to fiddle with things to get them to work all the time. ubuntu just works coke is pepsi. I though it was Progeny that uses anaconda. ahh okay effing software nazis!! :) MP3 has nothing to do with Debian policy, thats purely ubuntu Synaptic is a rpm frontend... apt-get my bad When use wget rpm? 9I usually use it for apt-get for rpm) it's works with apt-get on fedora as well what do you mean, vladster? sounds like my old compaq So you had fun Michele? you need a remington fuzz-buster *** Mike (~dbasinge@dsl093-224-097.slc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined channel #techshow I use wget for source packages yup, defintaly like my old compaq... not me,linc evening all i gave up after hardware kept failing :) Evening evenin' but it's all better now very happy, was going through computer withdrawal are you on it now then? yep nice takes a little getting use to but dont care as long as it works get the man to do that vacuuming! DO NOT VACUUM! vacuum==static well you cant call it hoovering i didnt even think to clean back of machine, heck i dont ever have to shut down cat hair its that good huh? back when i was a hardware tech we used to service veternary clinics.. talk about your furry pc's if I blow compressed air in mine, they release toxic dust clouds. i think that is why we had hardware failure, the fuzz was keeping it running easily 4 inches of animal hair inside the box I do that outside with a dust mask nasty *** Unibus (~rec@pcp08658928pcs.frncna01.pa.comcast.net) has joined channel #techshow or, after a mouthful of fuzz, thockthic dutht cloudth so that is where the tread came from Yeah have to keep cleaning the filter on the front of mine. DELL SUCKS! > i like my dell laptop those dell laptops are sweet :) i cant complain, my laptop has been going fine for three years I prefer thinkpads we got a dell about a year ago exactly not the product just the customer service had to call tech support ,like, 5 times...always said it was a virus I used to have a 7500 as well, it weighed about 8 pounds every single time *** Signoff: sharpie (Quit: Leaving) ive heard about their legendary customer service I had to send my Inspiron back after 8 weeks do a bootstrap I had a Dell Latittude C800 for years, best laptop for linux ever never ran linux on ours...it's my bro's comp...which probably explains why it sucks :-P but it's running fine since, that was 2 1/2 years ago he has evercrack running on it 24/7... my next laptop will weigh no more than 5 pounds I got a used laptop from work, old PII-300 with no cd-rom, what would be a good distro to put on this slacware or vector like you have a choicwe lightweight desktop, xfce or icewm You just can't cut and paste from window to window cody: Whats the command to change windomanagers in ubuntu? I could just edit the files directly if I have to. The Mighty Celeron man, and I thought my celeron 667 was bad! it's good for the extras the xfce installer I sound like Yoda lol like yoda you sound rignes: sorry, not sure strong in the force you are talking like this i am Feel the open source you must check the ubuntu forums weird this is getting agree i must using linux, smart you are No problem, just trying to get used to ubuntu. allan steps up Oh, thanks for the repository info, it worked as far as I can tell. :D I did have the open source, but then I downloaded libdvdcss just put Ubuntu on a machine, i like it. Been a RedHat/Fedora user since RedHat 5.2 rignes: nice Gnome > KDE cody: I just logged out and chose windowmaker in the session menu. haha, that was easy * cody likes his gnome :-) Now, to make it go to console by default. :D Has anyone heard the Mark Shuttleworth interview on LUGRadio? Snecklift: yup, was pretty good a pity it was so short but I liked the interview and agreed with what the boys had to say I can't run anything big like kde or gnome on this test system. Not enough ass to run them nice. Especially the bit about him being a bit so-so on how he's going to make the thing pay for itself why would you put gui on a server tell me ubout it opps, freudian slip vladster: I usually put a lightweight gui on server window make at the most nothing that could violate the security you can disable the spacial settings that's the part I hate vladster: WindowMaker what I usually use The only advantafge would be to preview pages oh hell heh! me and my bro's band did a cover of that at school a few weeks ago :-P who is killing the cat me :-P give me back the death metal snecklift: agreed hey this isnt too bad Huh... are you listening to the right stream? If they could Just lower the vol on the screaching. It'd be better. I've tried all the multiuser runlevels in inittab on ubuntu and they ALL stick me in the graphical login screen. :/ yea the whistles are a little annoying in the corperate environment I would be wary of using ubuntu as a mass deployment because of the indirect support chain I would hate to be called up every time something went "off" You need to edit one of your /etc/rc*.d directories and remove S99gdm, then the runlevel will goto CLI. I wonder what my darling Britney would make of it all give her a mouthful dear me Mrs. Steven Hawkings? whine all the way LeonScape: Oh ok. I didn't even think of that. I'm used to Slack where you just need to chance the runlevel. I use it for compiling kernels rignes: Its basically the same, its just that the *dm has been put into every runlevel, Debian does it as well. Theres no real standard for what runlevel to use. let's make a distro mp3 patent defence fund. Debian does include the codec, Since Debian is not affected, Fedora and Ubuntu don't. anyone know where to get pine for Ubuntu? *** aay (~aay@tera-24-206-142-17.kw.tx.cebridge.net) has joined channel #techshow lo all hey aay can't listen live now, but thought i'd check in the chat room. what's the show discussion tonight? Ubuntu and more ubuntu hehe. is there discussion about the mark shuttleworth interview? they are thinking of changing the name to The Ubuntu Show it's on the newest lug radio. thats on the LUGRadio stream nice interview. aay: not yet, anyway Linc is raving about how cool RhythmBox is hhok LOL rhythmbox is very nice. not quite as good as amarok imho. yeah go Poland It was rejected ( mainly with the help of poland ). www.thankpoland.info skype time its a beer Snecklift: isn't LugRadio the Ubuntu Show Mike, dunno. this was the first show i listened to and they intviewed mark shuttleworth on it. Beer: The breakfast of Champions coors is the only beer available here :) right I actually got a decent English bitter last week you could never get bitter here for the longest time can you get it in Canada? coors? blah! guinness! or sam adams :-) Ubuntu Enterprise Edition:) * brian opens an Iron City in the aluminum bottle nonetheless shouldn't it be an iron bottle? how about LINE-EX LOG? I think it used to be in an iron bottle back in the 1890's lol lol the guy actually says LIN-UX now wow this skype guy is dedicated.... ;) yeah I just stay up, couldn't be bothered going to bed and getting up. *aay* hey being a pastor and all i can't normally listen live on wednesday night (prayer meeting). it was canceled tonight. do you think tllts will go on in perpetuity on wednesday night? i guess i'm the only one who's the odd man out. I don't think he got the joke Linc ack back on Ubuntu? the horror.. dedicated skyp guy ack slack? I can't hack Slack:0 Patrick: I didnt get the joke codecs are easy to install on fedora Sneck, Linc was being sarcastic when you asked if he knew Sydney furries and plushies are different Ahh didnt hear his answer *** Signoff: Patrick (Quit: Leaving) and not always sexual in meaning How about a Snecklifter Slushie RIAA SUCKS! *** Signoff: Mike (Quit: Leaving) patents are for processes, not ideas *** Patrick (~pdavila@00045A247574.msns.sm.ptd.net) has joined channel #techshow we got it to work last time after one of the shows just buy music and you won't worry about the RIAA patents are apparently for whatever the people/companies with the most money want them to be. All you have to do is buy out the politicians. with glow sticks hahahha Belkin > Linksys Yeah thats a way to burn bandwidth Video links! traffic, like the low spark of high healed boys is it gona be a router, too? or just a WAP? dangle my dongle get a cheap belkin offa pricewatch...probably about $30 our belkin router works fine pricewatch rules wireless has always been a sore issue Just avoid buying one of those Linksys kits that comes with the router and the NIC. From what I hear they suck. I'm thinking of getting the linsys 802.11g wireless router, goes for $69 with rebate pricewatch > pricegrabber > newegg beep this! yeah newegg is good too newegg SUCKS expensive as hell depends, sometimes they have deals nah... Beep when you gotta build an entire comp for under $400...you learn that pricewatch rules :-P Urza9814: Where do you buy your stuff? echo echo echo The tension..... :) I got my entire comp off an old compaq presario and pricewatch Pricewatch is nice but.. :-P yeah pricewatch is always my first stop I got my speakers from pricegrabber this for my mythtv box, wife is not into cutting holes into the walls for ethernet cable altec lansing 5.1...they're pretty nice there is a pretty site... if you want to just get all your parts from a single vendor with an excellent track track record for customer service it's worth the price difference. cheap stuff lasts longer :-P I order from Newegg for the customer service alone. yeah when I go through pricewatch I assume I will get no cust. service Now I'm scared... hot allan ( shudder ) meh...I don't bother with customver service pricewatch has some depends on the individual site depends on the vendor It depends on what you want really. I use pricewatch too. But I do like Newegg also. most pricewatch stuff is just 30 day warranty...few extra bucks for anythign more *** Unibus has left channel #techshow because (Kopete 0.9.0 : http://kopete.kde.org) time to go clean my Revo so I can play with it in the snow later http://www.sysop.ca/pictures/image-cache/Cool_Stuff/Revo/PICT0664_disp640.jpg On Newegg I have a lifetime warrante on my memory. A stick died that I've had for over a year and they RMAd a replacement no questions asked. That rocks. cool meh... I've never had to RMA anything weeeeeeeee.. http://www.sysop.ca/pictures/image-cache/Cool_Stuff/Revo/PICT0670_disp640.jpg' Then you are a super luck person. :-) cody: sweet rignes: no, shit breaks, I just don't care :-P Hehe I fried my floppy controller a short while ago im pretty srue my mobo is still under warranty but im not gonna go through the trouble of sendign it back lol Urza9814: http://www.sysop.ca/pictures/image-cache/Cool_Stuff/Revo/DCP_3468_disp640.jpg slug radio died? hah, nice rawr heh :-) * cody is a big kid inside I like the idea of knowing I get all my PC stuff from what place. Instead of digging through my reciepts going, "Now where did I get this Video card from? I THINK it's underwarrante....But who do I call?" Organised? Oh elite... ;) im a big kid outside... :-P that yours, cody? yeah But that's just my preference. *shrugs* lol go fast? I know where I got my stuff from rignes: you just described me. 11 parts, 9 stores. lol 45mph is what traxxas states it will do damn! 45mpg! *mph I'd forget to put on my pants in the morning if it wasn't so darn cold out. How the hell can I remember where I got what part and when? hehe yep The Linux Show, Dry dry dry... the linuxshow was on for close to 7 years I think http://www.sysop.ca/pictures/image-cache/Cool_Stuff/Revo/PICT0733_disp640.jpg rignes: I have a list somewhere...all I actually remember is my case and mobo :-P I'm a man, the only things I remember easy are things related to sex and food. whoa, that looks kinda big i have video somewhere but it's not in streamable format yet heh I'm a geek...I only remember comp stuff... 21: 04 here ewww.... heard their chistmas show even more ewww... http://www.sysop.ca/pictures/image-cache/Cool_Stuff/Revo/DCP_3480_disp640.jpg That's a 750ml bottle of coke heh oh, looks bigger in the other pic bed, dear bed......... *** Signoff: Snecklift (Quit: Leaving) *** Signoff: jharmon (Quit: jharmon) Thanks for Listening *** Signoff: allan (Quit: Leaving) 'night fellas. time for some homework See ya. An so it ends... Night everyone. great show. bye all later everyone *** Signoff: init2null (Quit: Leaving) good night > gnight everyone :-) great show guys *** Signoff: Patrick (Quit: Leaving) that was my first live listen in *** LeonScape has left channel #techshow because (Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org) Anyone here using 2.6.10? *cody* you guys still looking for mirrors? let me check...heh *** Signoff: michele (Quit: Leaving) IRC log ended Wed Jan 19 22:08:02 2005